Post #218,169
8/8/05 4:05:12 PM
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It's a loophole for the FSF.
Current business models of closed-source code (and, indeed, pseudo-closed-source, like they claim web services to be) are counter to the stated ideals and intentions of the guardians of the GPL.
The virality or not of the GPL is incidental; if that's what it takes to ensure that the licence cannot be breached, then that is what they will do.
The interests of "business" are just not taken into account by the GPL; it's an ideology made flesh in the form of a legal instrument, and one that only gains its edge by subverting copyright law.
Peter
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Post #218,171
8/8/05 4:07:22 PM
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Post #218,173
8/8/05 4:10:54 PM
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Your point?
The FSF don't care at all about that, and that is precisely the point I'm trying to convey.
You will NEVER sway the FSF with an argument about "business" or "the workplace".
It's a bit like trying to convince a Republican of the virtues of a rise in income tax in order to subsidise free healthcare for all.
Peter
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Post #218,177
8/8/05 4:28:30 PM
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I started this
trying to get somebody to tell me where I was wrong.
The GPL is the FSF's, true.
The software is not.
I think v3 is a disaster that will wreck what could be a revolution in software development; and software has never been more important than it is now. If I can't sway the FSF (and you're right, I think I'd have more luck trying to talk the Hubble back into orbit), then I'll take my misgivings to forums, hoping to reach developers. If they all say "fuck you, and fuck business", then the code base will split, one for business, one for the FSF disciples, and the FSF will deserve both obscurity and curses.
I truly hope my paramism (pessanoia?) is misplaced, but I don't think so.
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] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #218,175
8/8/05 4:25:20 PM
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Business Interests
From where I sit, most businesses don't want or care to modify the source of the software. They don't really care to sink dollars into the development of such programs as MySQL or Apache. They do care, however, about the apps that ride on top of these packages.
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Post #218,178
8/8/05 4:28:35 PM
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Most businesses...
...end up buying Oracle.
Not entirely facetious, I wot.
Peter
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Post #218,179
8/8/05 4:29:02 PM
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Same difference, if the apps are GPLed.
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] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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