"Patient, what would you like me to prescribe?"

Post #216,005 by Arkadiy 7/21/05 9:45:40 PM Reply	"Patient, what would you like me to prescribe?" A doctor that comes to work drink. A hyfrecator used without local anestesia. Leaving half-pint container for peeing for a recovering lad who can't get up, overnight. Feeding a woman thyroid hormones after mis-diagnosing hypotherios. For two years. Stuffing a mononucleosis patient with penicillin, to which he is violently allergic. For two weeks. Beds in corridors being preferable to beds in wards because there, the nurses at least pass you by. Nurse aides who don't even pretend to help the patient - "She is too heavy, we'd rupture ourself. And she has relatives who come twice daily anyway". Stench in hospital that litrally carries you off your feet. Enough? Yes, I bought the capitalist view of medicine. Try not paying your doctors and nurses, you'll get no fucking doctors no matter what your goddamn law says. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #216,040 by bepatient 7/22/05 12:32:40 AM Reply	Only the best for me ;-) signed The patient Patient If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #216,080 by mmoffitt 7/22/05 11:18:52 AM 7/22/05 11:36:43 AM Reply	And you think none of that happens when you pay them? Let me tell you of one of my first experiences with how great the care is you receive when physicians are paid obscene salaries. I was working as Lab Assistant at a reference medical lab in Inglewood. Among other things, we'd do pregnancy tests for physician offices around the city. We get this one from a posh office in Marina Del Rey. Okay, so we send back a titer that estimates about 2 months pregnant. New physician starts working at the office. The patient comes back in to see him and schedule an abortion. He looks at the chart and decides D & C. So, she's there on the table when she dies - bled out - the physician couldn't get all the tissue so he kept scrapping and vacuuming until he ripped her uterus lose and she bled to death on his table. Why did this happen? Because the vaunted, well paid physician failed to notice that our test had been done 4 months prior. So, the patient was not 8 weeks pregnant, but 24 weeks pregnant. That's what the glorious medical review board found as well. His penance for killing this young girl? Oh, well, you'll have to work in a free clinic for 12 months you bad boy. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Edited by mmoffitt July 22, 2005, 11:36:43 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #216,082 by inthane-chan 7/22/05 11:48:25 AM Reply	And another I almost bled to death on an ER gurney, where I was left to sit for three hours before anybody even came to check me out. When I finally got out of the OR, I was stuck in a double room with a guy who's appendix had burst - he had repeatedly told his doctor, "I have appendicitis, do something about it NOW," and the doctor kept telling him, "No you don't, go home." My wife was told, alternately, that she had scabies/allergic reaction/something else for about five years before a doctor finally diagnosed her as having pernio. We have insurance. We pay our bills. We still get screwed. Yes, doctors should get paid. But the system does need to be reigned in and controlled, especially the insurance company side. Malpractice should stand, but non-compensatory (pain + suffering, etc.) damages should be capped as a multiplier of the compensatory judgement. Get the damn system working for the PEOPLE again, not for the doctors/pharmaceutical/insurance companies. apt-get install godlike-powers
Post #216,086 by mmoffitt 7/22/05 11:55:52 AM Reply	Agreed. Getting the system working for the people is what's needed. That said, I find it a pity that today in 2005 we must still (as Jesse Jackson noted in his 1984 speech to the Democratic Convention) "Dream about doctors [physicians] more concerned with public health than personal wealth." bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,142 by Ashton 7/22/05 5:41:22 PM Reply	Inconsistent with Puritannical roots.___(really!) Sorry. Muricans adore the Trumps/Billys - the Winner-take-All [no matter How Won]. (Is this not evident without 42 links?) THAT is our ethos and our Actual 'God'-thing and no amount of bloodless wrangling, caucusi and watered-down 'arrangements' can go against That Grain. Not if history (or herstory) are any guide whatsoever. I. See. Blood. (if indeed, there are -???- more than a handful left about, with the requisite Guts.) Did I mention - We're Fucked? - by popular collaboration.
Post #217,178 by Arkadiy 8/3/05 8:10:51 AM Reply	The above crap happened to 4 people over the space of 15 years. Not something I heard or saw in the hospital. If I'd start telling you the things I saw in the hospital, your hair would stand on end, for days. Like ninty-year-old "babushka" dying of hunger in the filth of her own excrements because she had no relatives to care for her. Your case is a tragic exception. My cases were the rule. Nobody expected anything better, unless you had a physician in the family, had access to priviliged clinics or paid for services under the table. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #217,185 by mmoffitt 8/3/05 9:45:19 AM Reply	Ah, but isn't getting more if you pay more your ideal? bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #217,270 by Arkadiy 8/3/05 3:08:18 PM Reply	Yes, when it's properly labeled as such ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]

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