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Post #215,733

by ben_tilly

7/20/05 10:29:46 AM

It sure doesn't look like that to me

It looks to me like he thinks they are similar, except that Canada has more of a sense of community which makes doctors more willing to be there.

Cheers,
Ben

I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

Post #215,736

by CRConrad

7/20/05 10:48:55 AM

Your hypothesis has the weakness...

...that it doesn't square with the conclusion one can draw from the sum total of many of his other posts -- in some he criticises HMOs, and in some (others) he praises (his perception of) Canada.

Nor with what Mike himself *said* shortly after the post we're dissecting -- "I didn't mean to say they're similar", or words to that effect.

Mine lacks that weakness, in that it squares with both of the above.

But, hey, whatever floats your boat.

[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)

Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]

Just for the record. - (imqwerky) - (134) - July 18, 2005, 12:18:43 PM EDT

and she would make the trains run on time, yeah right - (boxley) - (15) - July 18, 2005, 12:39:06 PM EDT

Man, you gotta stop listening to Faux News. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 12:46:23 PM EDT

who used Anthony Pelicano as their personal punch? -NT - (boxley) - July 18, 2005, 01:04:53 PM EDT

Oh Puhhhhhleeeezzzzzzz - (imqwerky) - (12) - July 18, 2005, 01:07:09 PM EDT

point by point - (boxley) - (11) - July 18, 2005, 01:37:05 PM EDT

/me raises hand - (jb4) - (3) - July 18, 2005, 01:50:25 PM EDT

brunei, specifically ending a contract for mining in utah - (boxley) - (2) - July 18, 2005, 01:58:39 PM EDT

Would that Alabama governor happen to be named Wallace? -NT - (jb4) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 02:25:16 PM EDT

/me makes whistling sound while gazing elsewhere -NT - (boxley) - July 18, 2005, 02:55:45 PM EDT

Hardly any points. Why can't you STOP believing that drivel? - (CRConrad) - (4) - July 18, 2005, 03:06:25 PM EDT

gee, is Rupert your dad? must be, you look like him - (boxley) - (3) - July 18, 2005, 03:33:03 PM EDT

It matters if it is my Dad you're fellating,or someone else? - (CRConrad) - (2) - July 18, 2005, 04:39:51 PM EDT

:-) yer slipping, does juanita broderick ring a bell? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 05:48:38 PM EDT

Nope. Well, maybe, but none of mine anyway. -NT - (CRConrad) - July 18, 2005, 05:55:11 PM EDT

Rebuttal - (imqwerky) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 04:43:21 PM EDT

Correction for you - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2005, 04:49:40 PM EDT

I don't care about Hillary's gender - (ben_tilly) - (75) - July 18, 2005, 03:13:51 PM EDT

ROFL. - (mmoffitt) - (70) - July 18, 2005, 03:19:42 PM EDT

No, because it was beaurocratic crap. - (ben_tilly) - (69) - July 18, 2005, 03:23:17 PM EDT

Why you can't leave it to the states. - (mmoffitt) - (65) - July 18, 2005, 03:35:28 PM EDT

Swell. - (imric) - (53) - July 18, 2005, 03:40:13 PM EDT

Fuck you. - (mmoffitt) - (51) - July 18, 2005, 03:47:44 PM EDT

You could say that about any profession - (drewk) - (6) - July 18, 2005, 04:01:34 PM EDT

Fairly? - (pwhysall) - (3) - July 18, 2005, 04:03:47 PM EDT

Those going into soldiering often don't have better options - (drewk) - (2) - July 18, 2005, 04:28:06 PM EDT

What about the officers? - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 04:29:21 PM EDT

They get paid quite a bit better - (drewk) - July 18, 2005, 04:44:47 PM EDT

Not necessarily - (imqwerky) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 05:01:51 PM EDT

Priorities - (drewk) - July 18, 2005, 09:16:59 PM EDT

And who the hell is gonna pay for the education? - (imric) - (34) - July 18, 2005, 04:11:09 PM EDT

next time mikey gets sick, send him to the va - (boxley) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 04:17:37 PM EDT

Yet another example of "supporting our troops" - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2005, 04:25:14 PM EDT

Ping-pong policy-making...? -NT - (admin) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 04:19:09 PM EDT

You said it! -NT - (imric) - July 18, 2005, 04:19:52 PM EDT

We manage alright over here... - (pwhysall) - (29) - July 18, 2005, 04:25:45 PM EDT

Litigious fucks. - (imric) - (12) - July 18, 2005, 04:32:34 PM EDT

If your hypothetical MD does as you say, - (mmoffitt) - (11) - July 18, 2005, 05:02:09 PM EDT

So you're against the Physician's union? - (imric) - (10) - July 18, 2005, 05:14:48 PM EDT

Huh? - (mmoffitt) - (9) - July 19, 2005, 01:20:38 PM EDT

Yeah. Right. - (imric) - (8) - July 19, 2005, 02:34:43 PM EDT

You can't even fucking read, can you skippy? - (mmoffitt) - (7) - July 19, 2005, 04:36:18 PM EDT

Ok, cretin. - (imric) - (6) - July 19, 2005, 04:57:17 PM EDT

Again, you mislead. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - July 19, 2005, 05:04:56 PM EDT

_I_ mislead? - (imric) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 05:35:36 PM EDT

Free clue, knucklefuckers. - (pwhysall) - (3) - July 19, 2005, 05:54:22 PM EDT

But I'm having too much fun HERE! -NT - (imric) - (2) - July 19, 2005, 05:57:59 PM EDT

Crap. I c. My bad. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - July 19, 2005, 06:02:39 PM EDT

OK - (imric) - July 19, 2005, 06:35:44 PM EDT

Amen, with caveat. - (mmoffitt) - (15) - July 18, 2005, 04:59:53 PM EDT

The escalation of premiums is tied to the stock market - (ben_tilly) - (14) - July 18, 2005, 05:34:22 PM EDT

I know about Reserve requirements, but, - (mmoffitt) - (5) - July 19, 2005, 01:25:17 PM EDT

You may want to look into this further - (bepatient) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 05:39:57 PM EDT

Excellent point. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - July 19, 2005, 06:07:48 PM EDT

80 % of deaths occur in hospitals - let's tear 'em all down! - (CRConrad) - (2) - July 20, 2005, 03:19:42 AM EDT

No, they're talking about terminal cases - (drewk) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 12:05:34 PM EDT

A) Schiavo. B) Yeah, I know. C) Yup, as Fernet-Branca grappa - (CRConrad) - July 20, 2005, 03:40:30 PM EDT

A Flash of Brilliance! - (imqwerky) - (7) - July 19, 2005, 04:09:22 PM EDT

Aside: Know what the difference between God and an MD is? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - July 19, 2005, 04:37:25 PM EDT

Good one! -NT - (imqwerky) - July 19, 2005, 06:00:17 PM EDT

Wanna fix that habit they have? - (Ashton) - July 20, 2005, 11:35:13 PM EDT

Socialized insurance is what Canada has :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3) - July 19, 2005, 04:43:46 PM EDT

Study this more I will, yessssssssss. - (imqwerky) - (2) - July 19, 2005, 06:07:13 PM EDT

Isn't there a bit of Gollum in there too, yessssssssss? :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 02:59:10 AM EDT

Wellll, it should have been more of a yeeeeeeeees. - (imqwerky) - July 20, 2005, 03:24:32 PM EDT

"Patient, what would you like me to prescribe?" - (Arkadiy) - (8) - July 21, 2005, 09:45:40 PM EDT

Only the best for me ;-) signed The patient Patient -NT - (bepatient) - July 22, 2005, 12:32:40 AM EDT

And you think none of that happens when you pay them? - (mmoffitt) - (6) - July 22, 2005, 11:36:43 AM EDT

And another - (inthane-chan) - (2) - July 22, 2005, 11:48:25 AM EDT

Agreed. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - July 22, 2005, 11:55:52 AM EDT

Inconsistent with Puritannical roots.___(really!) Sorry. - (Ashton) - July 22, 2005, 05:41:22 PM EDT

The above crap happened to 4 people - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2005, 08:10:51 AM EDT

Ah, but isn't getting more if you pay more your ideal? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:45:19 AM EDT

Yes, when it's properly labeled as such -NT - (Arkadiy) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:08:18 PM EDT

Soldiers get paid a lot less. - (pwhysall) - July 18, 2005, 03:52:18 PM EDT

People made that argument when Canada did it - (ben_tilly) - (10) - July 18, 2005, 04:31:31 PM EDT

Er, I don't think you're an idiot. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - July 18, 2005, 05:04:28 PM EDT

I think I've pointed this out before - (ben_tilly) - (8) - July 18, 2005, 05:32:32 PM EDT

You misinterpretted my Kaiser question. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - July 19, 2005, 01:23:34 PM EDT

As far as I can see I understood your point perfectly - (ben_tilly) - (6) - July 19, 2005, 04:50:29 PM EDT

Where did I suggest Canada was like Kaiser? - (mmoffitt) - (5) - July 19, 2005, 05:06:49 PM EDT

Try here... - (ben_tilly) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 07:46:41 PM EDT

I didn't read it that way. - (Another Scott) - July 19, 2005, 08:01:20 PM EDT

I think he was *contrasting* Kaiser to (his image of) Canada -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - July 20, 2005, 03:25:12 AM EDT

It sure doesn't look like that to me - (ben_tilly) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 10:29:46 AM EDT

Your hypothesis has the weakness... - (CRConrad) - July 20, 2005, 10:48:55 AM EDT

Isn't Canada's health system having problems now? - (Another Scott) - (2) - July 18, 2005, 03:41:16 PM EDT

flame forum asshole take this to politics :-) -NT - (boxley) - July 18, 2005, 03:58:59 PM EDT

Part of a long-term unsustainable trend - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2005, 04:21:09 PM EDT

I don't know how much of a disaster it would have been - (jb4) - (3) - July 18, 2005, 04:54:36 PM EDT

The amount of bureaucracy created... - (ben_tilly) - (2) - July 18, 2005, 05:20:02 PM EDT

So in your mind bureaucracy == failure? - (jb4) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 06:01:12 PM EDT

No - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2005, 08:27:32 PM EDT

She's a fucking fraud, only out for #1! - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 09:22:21 PM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - July 19, 2005, 12:48:42 AM EDT

On not supporting HRC for president - (rcareaga) - (7) - July 18, 2005, 09:43:40 PM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (broomberg) - July 18, 2005, 10:25:43 PM EDT

Precisam\ufffdnte boyo.. - (Ashton) - July 19, 2005, 01:10:22 AM EDT

If she is so good why is every republican in the nation - (boxley) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 09:58:23 AM EDT

sure you do--you call the treat "WorldNetDaily" -NT - (rcareaga) - (3) - July 19, 2005, 10:30:23 AM EDT

I know that sometimes there is nuggets under those rocks - (boxley) - (2) - July 19, 2005, 10:56:35 AM EDT

Wooooo - (drewk) - (1) - July 19, 2005, 11:15:47 AM EDT

(it was ghost-written...) -NT - (jb4) - July 19, 2005, 03:06:04 PM EDT

Troll Successful! - (imqwerky) - (7) - July 19, 2005, 01:12:52 AM EDT

That's one way to try to end a thread... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (6) - July 19, 2005, 01:27:48 AM EDT

"Try"being the operative word. Doesn't usually work, though. - (CRConrad) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 02:30:01 AM EDT

Critter made me do it :-D - (imqwerky) - (2) - July 19, 2005, 02:40:29 AM EDT

(Never mind this one; duplicate) -NT - (CRConrad) - July 19, 2005, 02:56:13 AM EDT

Uh, Amy, couldja do us a favour, please? (new thread) - (CRConrad) - July 19, 2005, 02:55:13 AM EDT

Clue to planet Christian... - (ben_tilly) - July 19, 2005, 12:30:09 PM EDT

ObLRPD: "tilly wonders what the upper limit ... " - (drewk) - July 19, 2005, 10:55:45 AM EDT

In The Inquirer fortune today. More on HRK. - (Another Scott) - (4) - July 19, 2005, 10:43:32 AM EDT

she is neither evil nor a leftist - (boxley) - (3) - July 19, 2005, 11:31:27 AM EDT

How do you explain that Moynahan suppored her? - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 19, 2005, 11:51:54 AM EDT

how many times was the word vindictive used? smoke/fire -NT - (boxley) - July 19, 2005, 11:57:43 AM EDT

Jesus H. - (mmoffitt) - July 19, 2005, 01:32:51 PM EDT

Howabout we get someone new? - (tuberculosis) - (18) - July 19, 2005, 05:59:02 PM EDT

That's how we get idiots in the White House - (ChrisR) - (8) - July 19, 2005, 06:17:51 PM EDT

As opposed to the solid performance of the former governors? - (tuberculosis) - (7) - July 19, 2005, 07:39:19 PM EDT

Jesse Ventura, Bob Hickel -NT - (boxley) - July 19, 2005, 09:16:52 PM EDT

former governors - (rcareaga) - (1) - July 19, 2005, 10:14:05 PM EDT

I stand corrected -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 20, 2005, 12:48:44 AM EDT

Clinton, governor of Alabama? I thought it was Arkansas... - (CRConrad) - (3) - July 20, 2005, 03:23:41 AM EDT

Ahem, AK is alaska AR Arkansas AZ arizona -NT - (boxley) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 03:43:15 AM EDT

Ah, I see. Well, if there's ever anything *else*... -NT - (CRConrad) - July 20, 2005, 09:55:21 AM EDT

One of those southern A-a states -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 20, 2005, 11:40:53 AM EDT

I think you aren't far off - (Ashton) - (8) - July 20, 2005, 03:40:39 AM EDT

Depressingly True, But there is hope. - (imqwerky) - (7) - July 20, 2005, 02:47:30 PM EDT

Don't kids usually try to be the opposite of their parents? -NT - (drewk) - (6) - July 20, 2005, 01:17:37 PM EDT

Point Taken - (imqwerky) - (3) - July 20, 2005, 03:21:47 PM EDT

/me sniggers - (inthane-chan) - (2) - July 20, 2005, 04:30:41 PM EDT

He's already rebelled. - (imqwerky) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 04:47:18 PM EDT

He's in the minority then - (ben_tilly) - July 20, 2005, 04:50:27 PM EDT

Usually failing in the end -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 20, 2005, 03:28:34 PM EDT

Same or opposite, little in between - (ben_tilly) - July 20, 2005, 04:35:30 PM EDT

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