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New Jesus you're full of crap sometimes, Todd.
I loaded it up. About 1s to get a splash screen, then another 5 seconds to get through the various "this is an eval" and licensing dialogs (95% user time). Then another 5 seconds to create a new profile, save it, and quit.

anderson@spork:~/dnl/md/moneydance$ time ./moneydance
loading platform helper...

real 0m3.056s
user 0m2.172s
sys 0m0.167s
That's a full program load, loading the new profile (or whatever they call it), then pressing ctrl-q to quit as soon as I see it's loaded.

This is an AMD 2500. Not particularly fast, not particularly slow.

Now, comparing this to Gnucash, doing the same thing:
anderson@spork:~$ time gnucash

real 0m5.443s
user 0m3.139s
sys 0m0.106s
Boy, that "C" language must be really slow, if it's that much slower than Java. And this is after I've cached it. The first time I ran it, 5 seconds to a splash, and another 5 to the loaded screen. The first time I ran Moneydance, it was just as fast as the other times. Typically I'm not going to have my finance app cached, so I'm sitting there for the 10 seconds every time with Gnucash.

On the Mini (1.4Ghz G4), it's about 5 seconds to get do the same thing in Moneydance. In comparison, iCal takes 3 seconds to start, NeoOffice 10s, and Camino 6s.

Beyond the speed differences, Gnucash has a UI that can charitably be described as "ass" in comparison to that of Moneydance. Guess which UI is pixelated, and which one has smooth text and nice widgets? And the Moneydance widgets sure as hell look like native Mac widgets to me. Actually, some of them are nicer. The checkboxes, for example, while they look just like the Mac widgets, have a nice background halo when in focus that the Mac widgets don't.

This knee-jerk asshattery of yours is beneath you. Get over it. Shitty programs come in all languages.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Expand Edited by admin June 1, 2005, 10:41:38 PM EDT
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Jesus you're full of crap sometimes, Todd.
I loaded it up. About 1s to get a splash screen, then another 5 seconds to get through the various "this is an eval" and licensing dialogs (95% user time). Then another 5 seconds to create a new profile, save it, and quit.

anderson@spork:~/dnl/md/moneydance$ time ./moneydance
loading platform helper...

real 0m3.056s
user 0m2.172s
sys 0m0.167s
That's a full program load, loading the new profile (or whatever they call it), then pressing ctrl-q to quit as soon as I see it's loaded.

This is an AMD 2500. Not particularly fast, not particularly slow. I'm going to go try it on the Mini next.

Now, comparing this to Gnucash, doing the same thing:
anderson@spork:~$ time gnucash

real 0m5.443s
user 0m3.139s
sys 0m0.106s
Boy, that "C" language must be really slow, if it's that much slower than Java. And this is after I've cached it. The first time I ran it, 5 seconds to a splash, and another 5 to the loaded screen. The first time I ran Moneydance, it was just as fast as the other times. Typically I'm not going to have my finance app cached, so I'm sitting there for the 10 seconds every time with Gnucash.

And Gnucash has a UI that can charitably be described as "ass" in comparison to that of Moneydance. Guess which UI is pixelated, and which one has smooth text and nice widgets?

This knee-jerk asshattery of yours is beneath you. Get over it. Shitty programs come in all languages.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
     need a check register for linux or OSX - (boxley) - (52)
         gnucash -NT - (bepatient)
         I've heard good things about MoneyDance - (SpiceWare) - (50)
             I would feel uncomfortable putting my financial info on the - (boxley) - (3)
                 I don't think it stores your data on the internet -NT - (SpiceWare) - (2)
                     if the application promises not to bombard you with banner - (boxley) - (1)
                         banner? - (SpiceWare)
             Java app - therefore worthless - (tuberculosis) - (45)
                 You're wrong. - (CRConrad) - (42)
                     No, we are the right ones - (tuberculosis) - (18)
                         I believe that you just said... - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                             I also mentioned speed - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                                 Moore solves that one - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                     IOW - (drewk) - (4)
                                         Ding, Ding, Ding! -NT - (folkert)
                                         The traditional figure is 90% :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                             That number is low -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                         Absolutely -NT - (broomberg)
                                     That's just not *elegant* (in the Jargon file sense.) - (CRConrad)
                                     I think there is something architecturally wrong with Swing - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                         There is... - (admin) - (4)
                                             Dupe - (tuberculosis)
                                             I last looked at it 2-3 years ago` - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                 Doesn't look like that on my machine. - (admin) - (1)
                                                     Powerbook G6 - (tuberculosis)
                                 Jesus you're full of crap sometimes, Todd. - (admin)
                                 Yeah...but what do you REALLY think? ;-) - (jb4)
                         ICLRDP (new thread) - (lincoln)
                     If it does the job correctly within the time allowed... - (pwhysall) - (22)
                         Key phrase: within the time allowed - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                             "Assorifice" - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                 You didn't answer my question (new thread) - (tuberculosis)
                         So if it doesn't, are we THEN allowed to say it's crap? - (CRConrad) - (18)
                             While we're hand-waving... - (pwhysall) - (17)
                                 That's a false dilemma - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                                     Not in most corporations. -NT - (admin) - (15)
                                         Can you back that assertion up? - (ben_tilly) - (14)
                                             If you're doing Windows programming - (admin) - (13)
                                                 Double check your assertion - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                     Yep, my bad. - (admin)
                                                     having spent time around some large telco's - (boxley) - (7)
                                                         Speaking of pearl... - (ChrisR) - (3)
                                                             He doesn't sound like a happy warrior. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             s/pearl/Perl. As for the rest... - (ben_tilly)
                                                             That shoulda been a new thread -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         You're trying to get my goat, aren't you? Perl, not pearl! -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                             one is a jewel and the other a shellfish hemorrhoid? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                 One is a jewel, and the other a kind of knitting? -NT - (jb4)
                                                 Fools we is I guess - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                     Ugh. -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                                         Makes sense if you think about it - (tuberculosis)
                 AFAIK, Intuit is evil. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     There is no question about that. - (a6l6e6x)

The man with the reverse Midas touch.
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