Post #208,692
5/26/05 11:46:50 AM
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Tips on rejecting interview candidates?
In our never ending drive towards massive parallelism and self service HR has decided that they will no longer call candidates to reject them. It is now up to the hiring manager. (At this rate, I expect eventually to have to write the books we sell)
Got any tips on how to do a nice rejection phone call?
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
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Post #208,694
5/26/05 12:00:46 PM
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That assumes "a nice rejection call" exists.
I'm dubious. But I'll watch this thread if anyone comes up with one.
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Post #208,695
5/26/05 12:06:49 PM
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Bad
You better get your corporate approved spiel, and STICK TO IT!
You are walking a very fine line between saying to little (which then hurts your conscience, assuming you have one), and saying to much, which then gives them something legal to come back at you with.
Either way, YOU take the bullet when something bad happens.
Without training and legal guidance, you are walking a minefield with no map.
Don't push back, since you are not a team player if you do, but make sure you get the support you need.
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Post #208,699
5/26/05 12:40:30 PM
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Keep it simple
"Thank you for applying for the position of x. I'm sorry, but we have selected another candidate to fill the position."
Don't answer any questions regarding why.
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Post #208,705
5/26/05 2:04:06 PM
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no rejection phone call! Nice blah letter expressing thanks
for the interest, thats all or nasty legal things will result.
thanx,
bill
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Post #208,713
5/26/05 2:57:54 PM
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When are they going to...
...call and say they will no longer do pre-screening and all of the other aspects of hiring.
Thats an effed up policy they have...my friend.
I would certainly make them approve any and all >written< candidate rejections before they are sent. Just to be a p.i.t.a. back.
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Post #208,717
5/26/05 3:02:58 PM
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*evil grin*
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Post #208,727
5/26/05 3:40:31 PM
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Re: When are they going to...
"...call and say they will no longer do pre-screening and all of the other aspects of hiring."
Hmmm, we already do much of that ourselves. OK, some of it. Seems HR is going to focus more on "sourcing" for awhile. It is possible to do our own sourcing - I get a feed of resumes submitted to the website, pop the ones I like into tracking system and ask HR to make appts for screeing.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #208,714
5/26/05 3:01:16 PM
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Sorry, the position has been filled.
While you're at it, can you ask HR to do your job while you are doing theirs?
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Post #208,733
5/26/05 4:43:26 PM
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Make it short and sweet
I would disagree with everyone else. Say something like this, "I regret to inform you that you were not selected."
In response to any questions about details. "Sorry, it is against policy for me to answer that."
Don't say that someone else got hired. Because someone else might not have been. You might still be looking. And the candidate may see the ad for that position again and get upset.
Volunteer nothing except the barest of bare facts.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #208,737
5/26/05 4:56:51 PM
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I agree; but wouldn't a letter like that be better?
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Post #208,740
5/26/05 5:17:19 PM
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Probably, but don't know the policy on that
Todd asked specifically about a rejection phone call. There may be a policy about that. Otherwise a letter is easier.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #209,007
5/29/05 7:01:52 PM
8/21/07 5:41:10 AM
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When they interview in person they rate a phone call
failing phone screens gets you a letter.
I ended up leaving a voice mail thanking him for making the trip, mentioning that the team enjoyed meeting him, we'll keep resume on file and if anything more suitable comes up blah blah blah.
We really do keep all contacts on file - consequently it doesn't do a lot of good to submit again if you got far enough to actually get rejected (rather than ignored) because we just find your previous interview notes read those.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #208,758
5/26/05 9:16:29 PM
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Post #208,773
5/26/05 11:18:14 PM
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Re: Make it short and sweet
Leading with a "Thank you for coming and and talking with us" is a nice touch, and a gentle signal that the news to follow isn't good.
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Post #208,866
5/27/05 5:09:32 PM
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What took them so long?
HR has decided that they will no longer call candidates to reject them
Hell, in my years I've gotten maybe one rejection phone call or letter per 25 interviews at the minimum; in my searches for the last 3 positions I've gotten NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER from the companies. The recruiters I went through didn't get any feedback from the companies either; we just gave up waiting to here something from them and looked elsewhere. Be like every other company in America today - just ignore those you've passed over. lincoln
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Post #209,008
5/29/05 7:03:23 PM
8/21/07 5:41:15 AM
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Passed over is one thing
If you are engaged in an interview (rather than simply submitting a resume and being ignored), then you ought to get some feedback on how your interview went.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #210,151
6/6/05 10:39:46 PM
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Rejection call? What's that?
I've never had one...
The closest thing I've ever got was a word from recruioter when I called him a month later: "yeah, they changed the job description, so your background was no longer suitable". Otherwise the companies simply get very quiet.
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