Post #203,672
4/17/05 9:08:27 PM
4/17/05 10:49:14 PM
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I don't know
Maybe your particular specialty peaked and then demand tanked.
Maybe you hit the top band of what is possible, and anything after that would require a huge change in job responsibilities.
I do know that tech track peaks somewhere above middle management, but not up to senior management level. So the ONLY way to get anymore money after a certain point is to move into senior management. I'm about to have my review in a bit. Doubt it will beat inflation. The only way I maintain my income is by side work / consulting.
Or maybe it is a matter of the multiple jobs. I know you've held several in several companies that have gone under. I assume in each case if you were out of work for a while you accepted a job at a lower income level.
For some reason you assume ever increasing income should be a given, and you are pissed that it is not true.
The bottom line is that it is not. Either you take 100% responsibility for your income by being an entrepreneur, which also means a strong chance of losing everything, or you take the less risky and less rewarding path of working for someone else, who in turn gets to set your salary.
And while you may say it is not less risky, the only thing you lose when the company you work for goes out of business is your job (and possibly pension). The owner might have bet a lot of savings, his house, etc, on the business.
Edit: missing "not"
Edited by broomberg
April 17, 2005, 10:49:14 PM EDT
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Post #203,674
4/17/05 10:40:08 PM
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Not all companies require that transition
I know that both Apple and eBay have special internal designations for very high-level technical people. At eBay a fellow is about equivalent to a vice president. Admittedly there are fewer fellows than vice presidents. (And has freedom to do virtually anything he wants because his judgement is trusted. If he thinks it is cool and worth checking out, it likely is.)
This situation is, of course, rare.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #203,680
4/17/05 11:18:04 PM
4/18/05 1:31:37 PM
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We do too
safety first
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #203,687
4/17/05 11:49:46 PM
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Keep in mind this is a public forum
You are crossing into dangerous territory.
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Post #203,697
4/18/05 3:29:35 AM
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there's a reason I never mention the actual name
you'd have to go back a bit to find my one mention of it
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #203,746
4/18/05 12:37:28 PM
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bit my ass, be careful
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
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Post #203,780
4/18/05 2:20:48 PM
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When the sage Ibn Abbas (whose name is blessed among those
who know) was writing the history of the deplorable exploits of Abu Niad as they had happened in Samarkand one hundred years ago, he was suddenly notified that the Grand Visier of the Emir of his City was a descendant of the said Abu Niad. Whereupon the Sage left 10 empty pages in his book, writing "Safety First" on each. And proceeded to describe the exploits of another illustrious warrior, whose ancestors lived a comfortable distance from his City.
(my (mangled) translation of a story from "The Adventures of Hodja Nasreddin" by Soloviev (and if you see references to the movie on the internet - skip it. The book is infinitely better, especially the second part. The movie is utter crap - what can you expect from 1934?))
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Post #206,890
5/11/05 1:20:17 AM
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Transliteration of
[link|http://www.khamush.com/sufism/nasrudin.htm| Mulla Nasrudin] perhaps? (Hakim Sanai, The Walled Garden of Truth)
The Legend of Nasrudin, appended to the Subtleties and dating from at least the thirteenth century, touches on some of the reasons for introducing Nasrudin. Humor cannot be prevented from spreading; it has a way of slipping through the patterns of thought which are imposed upon mankind by habit and design. As a complete system of thought, Nasrudin exists at so many depths that he cannot be killed. Some measure of the truth of this might be seen in the fact that such diverse and alien organizations as the British Society of the Promotion of Christian Knowledge and the Soviet Government have both pressed Nasrudin into service. The S.P.C.K. published a few of the stories as Tales of the Khoja; while (perhaps on the principle of 'If you cannot beat them, join them') the Russians made a film of Nasrudin under the name of The Adventures of Nasrudin. Even the Greeks, who accepted few other things from the Turks, consider him a part of their cultural heritage. Secular Turkey, through its information department, has published a selection o the metaphysical jokes attributed to this supposed Moslem preacher who is the archetype of the Sufi mystic. And yet the dervish Orders were suppressed by law in republican Turkey. Sufi stories.. the most likely source for many of JC's parables -- are never very far from the mouthings of daily politico- religio- factotums of any jour. Indries Shaw has collected volumes of their 'sayings' (but plagiarizers through the ages never give attributions, we see.) There really is nothing New under the Sun, 'The Son' (or the Sunni).
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