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Post #19,901 by boxley 12/1/01 6:25:33 PM Reply	one more time with feeling all net traffic can be monitored by anyone with enough incentive. pro active action against all intrusion systems is required regardless of source. It has been an ongoing cat and mouse game since day one. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #19,908 by Ashton 12/1/01 8:18:20 PM Reply	Get that, but - this seems about intentionally failing to flag an installed trojan/worm/whatever - because it's Authorized by the Ashcroft Covenant: ie they see it but won't tell you they saw it. Isn't it (about that)? A.
Post #19,918 by boxley 12/1/01 9:32:18 PM Reply	well do you trust yer security to a program? to a degree but I always sniff packets on a regular basis no matter which net I am on. raw data will tell all. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #19,937 by n3jja 12/2/01 12:00:19 AM Reply	You should at least GREP your logs once in a while. Otherwise you might never know WTF is going on. Hell, sometimes I don't know WTF is going on even when I do GREP my logs. Case in point. A routine GREP of the SYSLOG files has turned up a rather interesting trend lately. It seems that my Linux firewall has been receiving an unusual amount of connection attempts to port 1214 over the last week or so. Now, I don't know WTF port 1214 is (other than what is listed [link\|http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers\|here]), but I'm keeping an eye on it now and if I see any weirdness on the firewall, at least I won't be completely blind-sided. BTW, anybody know WTF could be going on with the above mentioned port connection attempts?
Post #19,964 by andread 12/2/01 1:31:43 PM Reply	KAZAA? downloading any bootleg programs or music lately? A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|http://wxxe.org]
Post #19,968 by n3jja 12/2/01 1:59:39 PM Reply	shrug Beats me. downloading any bootleg programs or music lately? You mean other than the usual alt.binaries.cd.image.* and the alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.* groups? ;-) Nope. The highest total of hits seems to have ocurred on 11/24 thru 11/25, and at times I know I wasn't even at the computer. What the hell is KAZAA anyway?
Post #19,972 by a6l6e6x 12/2/01 3:23:03 PM Reply	Google is your friend. [link\|http://www.kazaa.com/\|KaZaA.] [link\|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/22119.html\|The Register on subject.] Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Post #19,995 by boxley 12/2/01 8:00:10 PM Reply	dont grep them read the logs religiously tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #19,998 by n3jja 12/2/01 8:11:54 PM Reply	Sorry, Box, I'm not that anal about it. ;-)
Post #20,069 by orion 12/3/01 11:19:22 AM Reply	But isn't this a bit like wiretapping? Putting a trojan on a system to monitor keystrokes. I admit this will defeat PGP and other encryption programs, but this is vitually a wire tap to do this. Plus what if they put a trojan on someone who is innocent and the trojan stays there and causes system lockups and hangups. Would the innocent party have the right to sue if they discover it? It seems we are starting to lose our freedoms in exchange for security or trying to nail the bad-guys more? Is there even such a thing as privacy anymoe? *Picking up the pieces of my broken life.*

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