Post #198,050
3/11/05 12:13:26 PM
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Re: OT: How about PageMaker?
No DTP apps for Linux? I thought they'd have at least a few by now.
I guess publishing is no longer hip.
Or maybe the Linux answer is "learn SGML." :)
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Post #198,051
3/11/05 12:16:48 PM
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Maybe this?
[link|http://www.scribus.org.uk|http://www.scribus.org.uk]
Looks like it has potential.
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Post #198,072
3/11/05 2:19:53 PM
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Scribus, is vera nice .
If you are into learning a few thing, give [link|http://www.texmacs.org/index.php3|TeXmacs] a try. I like it. It is mainly pointed at the Scientific community... But dang, it does nearly anything you want. I have yet to come into a issue it doesn't handle yet. Does Forms Really nicely too. I am not saying it is an easy application (but then Illustrator, FlashMX, Photoshop, etc, aren't either) It is just usable from a different Mindset.
Scribus, is nice and easy. My wife uses it for the Church Bulletin now.
Oh and of course, if you want something to contrast look at [link|http://www.gimp.org|The Gimp] website. Might give you some food for thought. Recently it became able to manage CMYK as layers.
Have fun. Nice to see you back, at least for a while anyway. Most of the real volatile people are gone. Ross and Norm to name a couple. But we got some new ones hanging around here, which seem to fit in somehow.
Cheers.
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Post #198,092
3/11/05 5:17:24 PM
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Scribus isn't close
Trying not to sound elitist here, but if you think Scribus or TeXmacs are decent replacements for PageMaker, you never spent much time with PageMaker. Either that, or I've never seen anyone use TeXmacs in a way that remotely approached what I did with PageMaker.
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Post #198,095
3/11/05 5:31:35 PM
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Re: Scribus isn't close
Well what specific features of Pagemaker are you looking for?
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Post #198,124
3/11/05 10:13:18 PM
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The basic concept
PageMaker was based on the idea of physical paste-up. You grab an image or piece of text and place it. Each article is an atomic piece. Everything else I've seen starts with the idea of a single document, and you're just changing formatting.
Think of using something like Word, but everything is a text box or image box. And the tools are designed to work with them that way. Also, for multiple columns you can grab the continuation widget from the bottom of one column and continue that piece of text on another page.
It really addresses the difference between one person making one document, and one person assembling the output of several people into a larger work.
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Post #198,126
3/11/05 10:44:22 PM
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Re: The basic concept
Scribus uses the paste-up format. As a matter of fact, one of the reviews I read on it specifically talked about how it went this route instead of using the word processor "smart typewriter" model.
Scribus uses paste-up, allows you to create frames, link text between frames, handle manual kerning, handles four-color separations... it probably doesn't have *every* feature PageMaker has, but it's definately a DTP app instead of a word processor.
Based on what I've read, mind. Haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Soon... very soon...
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- Edward Young
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Post #198,128
3/11/05 11:00:19 PM
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I tried it briefly
I tried not to give up just because it was different from PageMaker. I really wanted it to be good. I just found it too hard to do what I wanted.
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Post #198,232
3/12/05 4:23:48 PM
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Not, too hard, differently designed.
Scribus can do nearly everything *I* want except for Database merging integration.
TeXmacs does this for me. I use TeXmacs as a text rendering tool. More a typesetting style of use. There are many many plugin/addon/templates/etc for Texmacs... it is insane the amount of customisation is available.
Go look at the TeXmacs website, it is just the tip of the iceberg. Remember TeX is the basis, remember CTAN?
It can do three style of "document notation" all in the same document. Or you force it to convert on saving. You can even save it any number of way as well.
I don't know about you, I still have my Pagemaker v5.0 disks hanging around and still use it from time to time only because of familiarity.
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