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New Source for this (supposedly) ancient Eyptian quote?

Tonight I saw the following lovely quote pop up in someone's email sig:

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Be a scribe! Your body will be sleek, your hand will be soft. You are one who sits grandly in your house; your servants answer speedily; beer is poured copiously; all who see you rejoice in good cheer. Happy is the heart of him who writes; he is young each day.

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This was attributed to "Ptahhotep, Vizier to Isesi, Fifth Egyptian Dynasty, 2300 BC". Curious about the source, I dug out my copy of Miriam Lichtheim's excellent [link|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520028996/qid=1110001355/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-3938964-7440711?v=glance&s=books&n=507846|compendium of Egyptian literature] and started hunting. I found "The Instruction of Ptahhotep", a set of maxims and moral principles the Vizier wrote out for his son, but nothing resembling the above passage shows up in the text; further, Ptahhotep appears to have been a Sixth, not Fifth Dynasty figure.

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The only other bit of Egyptian literature I could think of to check against was the "Satire of the Trades", which is also addressed from a father to a son and is meant to encourage the son to become a scribe, but it doesn't contain anything like the above passage either.

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Checking Google turns up an awful lot of people attributing this quote to Ptahhotep, but nearly every one of them gives a different date for him and none of the lists the text from which the quote comes.

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Does anybody here know the original source of the quote, or have any ideas on where else to turn to find it?

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New Wait... may have found it after all.

Digging through Volume II of Lichtheim (New Kingdom texts) I think I've found my source: the "Papyrus Lansing" of the 20th Dynasty. The various lines from the alleged Ptahhotep quote are scattered throughout it, but they all appear there.

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New Wouldn't a scribe have callouses on his hand?
Not a lot, not like someone being whipped into building pyramids, but still, something.
New I would think so

But compared to the average Egyptian laborer of the day, his hands would be pretty soft.

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Plus, apparently scribes had it pretty good; maybe he was able to moisturize and exfoliate a lot.

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New Then I guess I'm a modern day scribe
Computer programmer, sits here and writes code.
Or types.
Soft body.
Incipient heart attack.
New Barbra Streisand?
:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott March 5, 2005, 04:38:27 PM EST
New YM Shirley MacLaine, right?
New No, Babs.
[link|http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Abroad/0,,2-1225-1243_1265898,00.html|... bangs the drums of war...]. I like the last line in the story: Maybe it was Marlowe!

:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Ah, that "Caesar" thingy. I thought you meant...
...something about how she might have checked it out personally -- and that's Shirley's shtick.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New Yeah. She's been off my radar for a while...
She seems to have the same [link|http://www.shirleymaclaine.com/|interests] as we remember....

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who hopes he hasn't taken too many of BP's periods in his recent posts. ;-)
     Source for this (supposedly) ancient Eyptian quote? - (ubernostrum) - (9)
         Wait... may have found it after all. - (ubernostrum)
         Wouldn't a scribe have callouses on his hand? - (broomberg) - (2)
             I would think so - (ubernostrum) - (1)
                 Then I guess I'm a modern day scribe - (broomberg)
         Barbra Streisand? - (Another Scott) - (4)
             YM Shirley MacLaine, right? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                 No, Babs. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Ah, that "Caesar" thingy. I thought you meant... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                         Yeah. She's been off my radar for a while... - (Another Scott)

OK, my response to that is pending a Google search.
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