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New Re: Same old bullshit.
Still pretending you've never heard of Delphi, eh?

If I had my choice, I'd do it in Smalltalk...
New And WTF does that have to do with anything?
John U gibbers:
If I had my choice, I'd do it in Smalltalk...
So what? Apparently you don't have a free choice, but are constrained in that you need, as you put it earlier:
We don't want to risk developing with Microsoft beta software
Dunno if youy knew this, but Delphi actually is neither Microsoft nor beta software.

and we are stuck with .Net because all the developers here want a quick, easy GUI builder.
Which is exactly what Delphi is.

Well, except that you aren't stuck with em-ess-dot-net if you use Delphi; it's a quick, easy GUI builder for both .Net and regular Win-32 apps.

So what exactly was your excuse, again, for pretending that it doesn't exist?

Just wondering, you know...


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New Re: And WTF does that have to do with anything?
Before I came here, they tried to build a Windows version of the old COBOL software using Delphi and failed. The second try in PowerBuilder succeeded. Somehow, I don't think introducing Delphi will elicit a positive response.
New OK, so what you originally said was only half the story.
Left out the bit about how they inexplicably screwed up something that to anyone sane just shouldn't be screwuppable... (Did they try to write a COBOL app in Delphi, or WTF?)

Oh well, never mind.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
     The joys of .Net - (johnu) - (53)
         Ick. - (admin) - (18)
             It warn't me - (jb4)
             Here != IWETHEY in this case. -NT - (admin)
             So what's a good java IDE to use? - (drewk) - (15)
                 Intellij IDEA - (admin) - (14)
                     While learning, free is good - (drewk) - (10)
                         Checkout Eclipse - (johnu) - (9)
                             I despise that program - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                 I'm no psychic... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                     You ought to work in the circus -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                         I come here. Next best thing. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                     I think IDEA is good - I use it when I do Java - (tuberculosis)
                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                 It's all relative - (johnu)
                             I am such a lUser - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Look at the pretty COLORS! -NT - (jb4)
                     Concur - (jb4) - (2)
                         As a rabid, frothing Emacs user - (admin)
                         Another vote for Intellij - (bluke)
         Listeners - (warmachine) - (1)
             Re: Listeners - (johnu)
         Crap and Double Crap -NT - (tuberculosis) - (10)
             Interesting thing is... - (johnu) - (9)
                 Umm... Squeak? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                     Re: Umm... "up to date Windows UIs" -NT - (altmann)
                 Looked at Dolphin? - (tuberculosis)
                 Going farther afield - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                     You lose a lot of power though - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                         Re: You lose a lot of power though - (JimWeirich) - (3)
                             Is the parser written in Ruby? - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                 Just like C# and .Net - (mmoffitt)
                                 Re: Is the parser written in Ruby? - (JimWeirich)
         #3 will be possible in C# 2.0 - (altmann) - (1)
             But it's gonna be great! -NT - (mmoffitt)
         C# 2.0 - (johnu) - (17)
             Strong typing bites itself in the gonads once again - (FuManChu) - (2)
                 Any production quality dynamic languages for .NET yet - (johnu) - (1)
                     Not that I've seen. - (FuManChu)
             Objects to the rescue - (johnu) - (13)
                 Sounds reasonable - (FuManChu) - (6)
                     Wibble, wibble... - (CRConrad) - (4)
                         Semantics - (FuManChu) - (3)
                             A) Almost everything is, when you get down to it; and B)... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                 English is simply too flexible to be used well. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                     Yeah, I know - but it makes for a funny contrast... - (CRConrad)
                     Re: Sounds reasonable - (johnu)
                 Same old bullshit. - (CRConrad) - (5)
                     I second that -NT - (warmachine)
                     Re: Same old bullshit. - (johnu) - (3)
                         And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (CRConrad) - (2)
                             Re: And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (johnu) - (1)
                                 OK, so what you originally said was only half the story. - (CRConrad)
         OT: Inner/outer classes. (new thread) - (pwhysall)

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