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Post #194,553 by FuManChu 2/14/05 11:17:46 AM Reply	Semantics Call them whatever you want if they get the job done. I meant "as you like", by the way.
Post #194,623 by CRConrad 2/14/05 5:13:14 PM Reply	A) Almost everything is, when you get down to it; and B)... ...everybody seems to be leaving off "as possible", nowadays. Well, not everybody -- it seems to be Amer\ufffdcans, mostly. (I could say something about attention spans, here... But I'll leave you to come up with that for yourselves.) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #194,706 by FuManChu 2/15/05 12:54:43 AM Reply	English is simply too flexible to be used well. I think the problem comes up when typing such a phrase because English freely allows two different, yet equal, arrangements: "stick as much logic [as possible] into the objects themselves" and "stick as much logic into the objects themselves [as possible]" While typing, it's easy to intend to place the "as possible" at the end of the sentence, and then forget to do so, because your brain tricks you into thinking you already inserted "as possible" into the first slot. Not that English is the only such language, but I think that's why I elided the words.
Post #194,712 by CRConrad 2/15/05 2:41:54 AM Reply	Yeah, I know - but it makes for a funny contrast... ...with German, where the grammar dictates that such spans are much more frequent, and much longer -- and you hardly ever see Germans leave off such a possibly tiny, but nonetheless vital, part. (Then again, this could be because in German, such a fragment almost always has to go on the end of the sentence; which means there is a much smaller risk of thinking one has already added it.) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]

The joys of .Net - (johnu) - (53) - Feb. 4, 2005, 04:55:37 PM EST

Ick. - (admin) - (18) - Feb. 4, 2005, 05:25:35 PM EST

It warn't me - (jb4) - Feb. 23, 2005, 10:45:57 AM EST

Here != IWETHEY in this case. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 23, 2005, 11:35:24 AM EST

So what's a good java IDE to use? - (drewk) - (15) - Feb. 23, 2005, 11:59:55 AM EST

Intellij IDEA - (admin) - (14) - Feb. 23, 2005, 12:21:31 PM EST

While learning, free is good - (drewk) - (10) - Feb. 23, 2005, 12:26:47 PM EST

Checkout Eclipse - (johnu) - (9) - Feb. 23, 2005, 12:45:16 PM EST

I despise that program - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Feb. 23, 2005, 05:18:38 PM EST

I'm no psychic... - (pwhysall) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2005, 05:23:00 PM EST

You ought to work in the circus -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2005, 07:22:18 PM EST

I come here. Next best thing. -NT - (pwhysall) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:35:41 AM EST

I think IDEA is good - I use it when I do Java - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 23, 2005, 07:24:52 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 23, 2005, 05:28:09 PM EST

It's all relative - (johnu) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:04:26 PM EST

I am such a lUser - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:07:28 PM EST

Look at the pretty COLORS! -NT - (jb4) - Feb. 25, 2005, 02:40:53 PM EST

Concur - (jb4) - (2) - Feb. 23, 2005, 05:09:23 PM EST

As a rabid, frothing Emacs user - (admin) - Feb. 23, 2005, 05:31:00 PM EST

Another vote for Intellij - (bluke) - Feb. 24, 2005, 05:28:41 AM EST

Listeners - (warmachine) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2005, 07:36:48 PM EST

Re: Listeners - (johnu) - Feb. 4, 2005, 11:08:19 PM EST

Crap and Double Crap -NT - (tuberculosis) - (10) - Feb. 5, 2005, 12:00:27 AM EST

Interesting thing is... - (johnu) - (9) - Feb. 5, 2005, 10:12:02 AM EST

Umm... Squeak? -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 5, 2005, 10:31:49 AM EST

Re: Umm... "up to date Windows UIs" -NT - (altmann) - Feb. 5, 2005, 04:13:54 PM EST

Looked at Dolphin? - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 6, 2005, 12:02:26 AM EST

Going farther afield - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 6, 2005, 01:21:06 AM EST

You lose a lot of power though - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Feb. 8, 2005, 01:28:51 PM EST

Re: You lose a lot of power though - (JimWeirich) - (3) - Feb. 8, 2005, 11:08:43 PM EST

Is the parser written in Ruby? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 9, 2005, 12:48:20 PM EST

Just like C# and .Net - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 9, 2005, 02:26:55 PM EST

Re: Is the parser written in Ruby? - (JimWeirich) - Feb. 9, 2005, 05:55:31 PM EST

#3 will be possible in C# 2.0 - (altmann) - (1) - Feb. 9, 2005, 06:43:11 PM EST

But it's gonna be great! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 9, 2005, 06:55:59 PM EST

C# 2.0 - (johnu) - (17) - Feb. 11, 2005, 10:01:14 AM EST

Strong typing bites itself in the gonads once again - (FuManChu) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2005, 11:16:29 AM EST

Any production quality dynamic languages for .NET yet - (johnu) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2005, 11:28:01 AM EST

Not that I've seen. - (FuManChu) - Feb. 11, 2005, 02:26:02 PM EST

Objects to the rescue - (johnu) - (13) - Feb. 11, 2005, 04:42:00 PM EST

Sounds reasonable - (FuManChu) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2005, 02:09:08 PM EST

Wibble, wibble... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2005, 04:15:32 AM EST

Semantics - (FuManChu) - (3) - Feb. 14, 2005, 11:17:46 AM EST

A) Almost everything is, when you get down to it; and B)... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2005, 05:13:14 PM EST

English is simply too flexible to be used well. - (FuManChu) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2005, 12:54:43 AM EST

Yeah, I know - but it makes for a funny contrast... - (CRConrad) - Feb. 15, 2005, 02:41:54 AM EST

Re: Sounds reasonable - (johnu) - Feb. 15, 2005, 11:11:25 AM EST

Same old bullshit. - (CRConrad) - (5) - Feb. 14, 2005, 03:59:59 AM EST

I second that -NT - (warmachine) - Feb. 14, 2005, 08:57:54 AM EST

Re: Same old bullshit. - (johnu) - (3) - Feb. 15, 2005, 11:08:12 AM EST

And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (CRConrad) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2005, 02:29:35 AM EST

Re: And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (johnu) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:02:01 PM EST

OK, so what you originally said was only half the story. - (CRConrad) - Feb. 28, 2005, 09:20:51 AM EST

OT: Inner/outer classes. (new thread) - (pwhysall) - Feb. 14, 2005, 05:27:22 AM EST

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