Turkey Day (for the US contingent)

Post #19,126 by Silverlock 11/21/01 12:14:26 PM Reply	Turkey Day (for the US contingent) A happy thanksgiving to all (even if you aren't part of the US crowd). I am going to have a deep fried Turkey for the first time, a full review will follow.
Post #19,128 by bepatient 11/21/01 12:16:14 PM Reply	Happy Turkey Day...and you'll love the deep fried! You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #19,150 by SpiceWare 11/21/01 2:12:34 PM Reply	Seconded - mmmmmmmm DFT Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #19,132 by ChrisR 11/21/01 12:44:46 PM Reply	Killing your own food... I'm having dove and dressing for our Thanksgiving. And no, I don't intend to share as the hunting was rather lean this year. :-)
Post #19,133 by inthane-chan 11/21/01 12:49:13 PM Reply	I'll be AWOL for the next four days... Try not to start anything too big without me. I'm off for a Filipino-style Thanksgiving - punsit, lumpia, adobo, and of course, turkey. :) "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #19,134 by Another Scott 11/21/01 12:49:55 PM Reply	Me too. Back Monday. Be safe, all!
Post #19,145 by tseliot 11/21/01 2:04:25 PM Reply	That's spelled "TXMas" :D Enjoy! --------------------------------- A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly by the chain of their own ideas;...despair and time eat away the bonds of iron and steel, but they are powerless against the habitual union of ideas, they can only tighten it still more; and on the soft fibres of the brain is founded the unshakable base of the soundest of Empires." Jacques Servan, 1767
Post #19,173 by pwhysall 11/21/01 5:27:10 PM Reply	Re: Turkey Day (for the US contingent) Whatever the fuck this Thanksgiving lark is all about - have a good one, y'all. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #19,183 by Ashton 11/21/01 6:35:02 PM Reply	LRPD opines: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. and a premature Bilious Boxing Day to you too, mate! PS - 'twas started when the first invaders thoughtfully celebrated with their impending victims: by throwing a Feast of all the bounties (largely intoduced to them by the aforesaid). Surely a less cynical Thanks! than.. subsequent events make it out, seen from a bit later on. It's supposed to be about.. noticing for a spell, how Good ya got it - as a break from perenially wanting More. Something like that. (Alas - it's only One day a year, usually filled with football games of the oblate spheroid type and: planning shopping forays at the Mall, next day :( HTH.
Post #19,194 by mhuber 11/21/01 9:33:56 PM Reply	And turning out to be a very profitable costume day, as well We've made a bunch of money renting out pilgrim and native american costumes this year. Wish we had made more - we turned people away because we can't sew fast enough. ---- "You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
Post #19,196 by Ashton 11/21/01 9:41:54 PM Reply	Wow! serendipity coup___sore fingers - less typing :)
Post #19,212 by wharris2 11/22/01 9:03:21 AM Reply	Gobble gobble Too many Google links. Supposedly originated by the pilgrim colony in 1620 or 1621 (accounts vary). (That colony was eventually superceded by the colony established at what is now Boston.) The origins of the "Thanksgiving" celebration arguably comes from the colonists' homeland harvest festivals. Variously celebrated. Formally established by President Lincoln (probably as part of the post-Gettysburg battle propaganda) in 1863. Take it in both contexts; the original 1620 colony, in which they were all lucky to have survived the boat trip and disease and starvation and everything involved in establishing a colony, and the 1863 context, where the northern states had narrowly averted disaster in the war between the states. Just a brief background for you non-US'ers. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #19,286 by boxley 11/24/01 10:38:05 AM Reply	umm err the pilgrims were clueless about new world food growing and hunting, the natives showed them corn, squash and deer. The Pilgrims thanked the with smallpox and syphilis, we celebrate theis every year. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #19,293 by Andrew Grygus 11/24/01 12:10:12 PM Reply	"Old World" food It is thought by some historians that the turkeys served by the Pilgrims were actually Mexican turkeys brought over on the boat. Mexican "bred for eating" turkeys had already completely taken over from the peacock (ostentacious, but not very good eating) as the festival bird throughout Europe. The wild turkeys of the day would have been very hard to hunt, tough and not very meaty. It is descendents of Mexican turkeys that we eat today. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #19,303 by a6l6e6x 11/24/01 4:13:12 PM 11/24/01 4:28:21 PM Reply	Yep. Wild turkeys are quite "wiley". Benjamin Franklin (one of US founding fathers, for non-USns) wanted to make them the [link\|http://www.geobop.com/Symbols/Animals/Birds/1/Turkey/\|national bird.] Wild turkey are extremely difficult to hunt according to a nature film I once saw. Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) Edited by a6l6e6x Nov. 24, 2001, 04:28:21 PM EST Expand All History
Post #19,304 by hnick 11/24/01 4:56:40 PM Reply	I think they are going downhill too... For a change, my wife, puppies, and myself had Thanksgiving by ourselves at our cabin on the Ohio/Pennsylvania border(as opposed to 10 guests at home, with another dozen dropping in at irregular intervals.) There was a flock of ~8 wild turkeys wandering in the woods by the side of the road. I could have knocked one over with a rock. I guess they just felt safe near a state park :) On the other hand, everything was low key there; the whole town closed down and everybody took the day off. They even shut down the McDonalds. Kinda neat... I was seriously impressed. Hugh
Post #19,305 by wharris2 11/24/01 5:49:54 PM Reply	You sure about turkeys? One story I heard had it that until the settlers started shooting them down, they were fairly tame - used to bows and arrows, maybe, but not muskets. There's a turkey book whose title escapes me which has a picture of a nesting turkey on the cover. Nesting up in the branches of a tree (which is logical, when you remember wild turkeys aren't the beefed up tubs of meat that domestic turkeys are, and can fly short distances.) "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #19,326 by Andrew Grygus 11/25/01 1:02:32 PM Reply	And speaking of food rituals . . Saturday was the first Saturday of the season with heavy rain here in Los Angeles. This can mean only one thing - Saurekraut soup day. I made up the usual 2 gallon batch in accordance with the requirements of my tradition. I'm still using a recipe I carefully formulated (with extensive testing) during my vegetarian days. The original from my childhood requires salt pork, and I have made it many years ago with a couple of ham hocks tossed in instead of the salt port, but that formula spoils quickly without refrigeration. A 2 gallon batch will last me a week if I don't have any guests (you can eat an unblievable amount of this stuff at one sitting, and probably will). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #19,330 by wharris2 11/25/01 1:28:04 PM Reply	someoneslapme 2 gallons of saurkraut? "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #19,337 by Andrew Grygus 11/25/01 2:58:52 PM Reply	You misunderstand. Not sauerkraut, sauerkraut soup. Major ingredients are 5# of potatoes, a cup of barley, 4# of sauerkraut, 12-oz Onions, a few bottles of beer, a mix of sesame oil, olive oil and butter, soup stock, and a bunch of herbs and spices. Yum (just had another two bowels). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #19,338 by drewk 11/25/01 3:09:26 PM Reply	You just had another what? We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #19,341 by Andrew Grygus 11/25/01 3:57:23 PM Reply	Well, that too - There's only a gallon left now, so the other gallon must have gone somewhere. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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