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New Those are the myths from days gone by...
Just about everyone has the whole layer 2 stuff down. Very seldom, at least in recent times (Going back to 1999-2000) have I seen a proper networking piece of hardware NOT support nearly everything.

Hell, most things are still supporting fully DLC/LLC... icky poo. Heck even appletalk is supported with all its broadcast requirements and everything.

Both DLC/LLC and AppleTalk should be taken out to the Barn and SHOT. SNA/SNAP is something else that needs to DIE. Along with Token Ring, unless some company can finally make affordable Token Ring equipment able to run at 1000+ Mbit/sec data rates. I'd drop ethernet everything, in less than a heart beat, if TR was available reasonably and at fast data rates.

Now, as for Layer 3 stuff, heck even Cisco doesn't have it all down... F5 does some good damage at getting all poop into the group. Still yet to see the real-REEEEEAAL benefits from Layer 3, besides VLANs and Failover and Neighbor routing, VRRP, etc... /me is not impressed yet.

Of course, I was in on the Beginnings of Avaya's Layer 3 CRAP. (500s, 550s, 650s ...<shiver>...) So I guess I am biased.

I believe in getting things right, no static routes, etc... for Big Networks. Things should just click into place if attention to Detail is taken.
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New I did a lot of SNA & DLC.
"Both DLC/LLC and AppleTalk should be taken out to the Barn and SHOT. SNA/SNAP is something else that needs to DIE"

Shot? Not enough. Shoot it, cover the body with quicklime, then hose what's left away.
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  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Bah, wusses.
Everyone knows that Proper Computers running Real Operating Systems use a Proper networking protocol, like DECNet Phase V.


Peter
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     Newbie Wireless Q. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
         Re: Newbie Wireless Q. - (Steven A S)
         Uhmmm... - (n3jja) - (2)
             Yep. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 Netgear & Novell client for W2K. - (n3jja)
         Most of 'em as far as I know - (Silverlock)
         Those are the myths from days gone by... - (folkert) - (2)
             I did a lot of SNA & DLC. - (imric) - (1)
                 Bah, wusses. - (pwhysall)

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