Not necessarily.

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Post #190,360

by imric

1/16/05 8:48:53 AM

Not necessarily.

downloading a binary = copyright infringement?

[link|http://forfree.sytes.net|

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Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #190,362

by pwhysall

1/16/05 9:59:21 AM

Re: Not necessarily.

"music, comedy pieces, software".

I should note that Free software is very rarely propagated through USENET (why bother? An HTTP or FTP download is much easier), and the likes of [link|http://www.legaltorrents.com|http://www.legaltorrents.com] have got the Free music scene covered.

So while downloading binaries is not of necessity copyright infringement, I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of material in alt.binaries.* is there without the blessing of the copyright holder.

Hence my split sympathies :-)

Post #190,364

by imric

1/16/05 10:33:13 AM

*smile*

Just touchy/picky lately.

[link|http://forfree.sytes.net|

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Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

SBC fucks me in the ass - (lincoln) - (87) - Jan. 15, 2005, 11:28:44 PM EST

If you can get them, go with Speakeasy. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Jan. 16, 2005, 12:30:49 AM EST

Oh, and make sure SBC uses lube next time, too. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Jan. 16, 2005, 12:31:17 AM EST

I sympathise and not all at once. - (pwhysall) - (82) - Jan. 16, 2005, 03:48:20 AM EST

Not necessarily. - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 16, 2005, 08:48:53 AM EST

Re: Not necessarily. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 16, 2005, 09:59:21 AM EST

*smile* - (imric) - Jan. 16, 2005, 10:33:13 AM EST

Re: "Usenet is so 1996" - (lincoln) - (78) - Jan. 18, 2005, 09:17:52 AM EST

Actually you DO want to violate copyright - (ben_tilly) - (77) - Jan. 21, 2005, 12:36:13 PM EST

I prefer "try before you buy" - (lincoln) - (12) - Jan. 21, 2005, 10:55:44 PM EST

This shouldn't be complex - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 21, 2005, 11:42:44 PM EST

Ah say, ah say, that was a JOKE, son! - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2005, 03:06:15 AM EST

As I said before - (lincoln) - Jan. 24, 2005, 02:40:14 PM EST

bootleg records, 70's/friend 1-5 for selling them -NT - (daemon) - (8) - Jan. 22, 2005, 10:06:30 AM EST

What - if anything - does that mean? -NT - (CRConrad) - (7) - Jan. 23, 2005, 05:01:07 PM EST

I think I know. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Jan. 23, 2005, 05:11:18 PM EST

Pretty good match with my Boxish to English translation. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 23, 2005, 10:42:50 PM EST

"Friend of mine got 1-5 yrs for selling bootlegs in the 70s" - (CRConrad) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2005, 03:43:26 AM EST

Kind of like reverse polish notation - (broomberg) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2005, 06:53:01 AM EST

Dunno about "stacked"... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2005, 07:01:17 AM EST

:-) -NT - (daemon) - Jan. 24, 2005, 07:38:13 AM EST

Ya shouldn't a went and said that... - (jb4) - Jan. 25, 2005, 01:53:48 PM EST

www.allmusic.com - (pwhysall) - (63) - Jan. 22, 2005, 03:08:25 AM EST

Maybe a list of your favorites would help too. - (Another Scott) - (62) - Jan. 22, 2005, 09:51:04 AM EST

At least YOU understand - (lincoln) - (61) - Jan. 24, 2005, 02:38:11 PM EST

We all UNDERSTAND; you just don't want to ADMIT Ben is right -NT - (CRConrad) - (60) - Jan. 24, 2005, 05:01:08 PM EST

YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING - (lincoln) - (59) - Jan. 25, 2005, 09:49:22 AM EST

Well, the analogy is a bit over the top... - (ChrisR) - Jan. 25, 2005, 09:57:11 AM EST

Right? No, wrong, as usual. ('Cause you're not only cheap... - (CRConrad) - Jan. 25, 2005, 10:29:57 AM EST

Full points for creativity - (ben_tilly) - (24) - Jan. 25, 2005, 10:39:15 AM EST

A query on the premise. - (static) - (5) - Jan. 26, 2005, 08:54:09 PM EST

Not bloody likely. Willing to bet 95%+ copyright violations. -NT - (n3jja) - (4) - Jan. 26, 2005, 09:57:09 PM EST

Not everything there violates copyright - (lincoln) - (3) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:11:59 PM EST

Did I say everything? Learn to fucking read. - (n3jja) - (2) - Jan. 30, 2005, 11:00:26 PM EST

I never said they NEED alt.binaries - (lincoln) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2005, 01:54:31 PM EST

You really do need a Glass Navel, don't you? - (n3jja) - Feb. 3, 2005, 09:50:39 PM EST

You "suppose" a lot - (lincoln) - (3) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:07:19 PM EST

Silly question for you - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 30, 2005, 11:49:06 PM EST

Are you for fucking real??? - (lincoln) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:06:06 PM EST

More so than you, apparently. -NT - (n3jja) - Feb. 3, 2005, 09:54:01 PM EST

tell me Ben_Tilly - (lincoln) - (13) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:21:37 PM EST

I find myself in a difficult position - (broomberg) - (7) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:36:02 PM EST

I'm arguning "A" and they're arguing "B" - (lincoln) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:57:16 PM EST

Hey, this is Flame Quarantine. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 30, 2005, 11:13:42 PM EST

You'll note that this is not a court - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Jan. 31, 2005, 12:11:26 AM EST

And he already knows the answer to that. - (n3jja) - (3) - Jan. 31, 2005, 12:33:48 AM EST

Neither will Ben_Tilly - (lincoln) - (2) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:08:31 PM EST

I'm thinking of three words.... Pot... Kettle.....Black.... -NT - (n3jja) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2005, 09:54:54 PM EST

meself, Two vessels and a color; Pot, Kettle, Day-Glo Orange -NT - (folkert) - Feb. 3, 2005, 10:10:09 PM EST

Of course I have - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Jan. 31, 2005, 12:07:06 AM EST

There you go again - (lincoln) - (3) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:12:30 PM EST

The distinction between the intent and the act... - (pwhysall) - (2) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:45:32 PM EST

And you're an arrogant limesucker - (lincoln) - (1) - Feb. 6, 2005, 03:49:25 PM EST

Didn't we establish that you're an idiot? - (pwhysall) - Feb. 6, 2005, 03:54:02 PM EST

Worst. Analogy. Ever. -NT - (pwhysall) - (31) - Jan. 25, 2005, 11:50:08 AM EST

I thought car analogies took that prize. -NT - (Another Scott) - (29) - Jan. 25, 2005, 11:52:06 AM EST

They did. Linc just took that shark and jumped it with this. -NT - (pwhysall) - (28) - Jan. 25, 2005, 11:58:25 AM EST

Oh, ok. Congrats Lincoln! >:-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 25, 2005, 12:27:02 PM EST

Go use BitTorrent you encephalous lout! -NT - (lincoln) - (26) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:09:20 PM EST

I do :-) - (pwhysall) - (25) - Jan. 31, 2005, 12:32:53 AM EST

Nice URL name - (lincoln) - (24) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:13:45 PM EST

Read the site, shithead. - (pwhysall) - (23) - Feb. 3, 2005, 02:43:43 PM EST

So according to you - (lincoln) - (22) - Feb. 6, 2005, 03:57:03 PM EST

Deja vu! - (pwhysall) - (1) - Feb. 6, 2005, 04:03:44 PM EST

READ ME IN MY POSTS! -NT - (folkert) - Feb. 6, 2005, 05:37:23 PM EST

Yawn. - (Another Scott) - (19) - Feb. 6, 2005, 04:26:11 PM EST

I'm sorry... - (admin) - (18) - Feb. 6, 2005, 05:01:18 PM EST

Yeah. I know. - (Another Scott) - (17) - Feb. 6, 2005, 05:21:25 PM EST

go Ouaga yourself :-) -NT - (daemon) - Feb. 6, 2005, 05:40:34 PM EST

They are? - (ben_tilly) - (15) - Feb. 6, 2005, 07:40:57 PM EST

Deja vu? #192151. I don't think the coal fire was intended.. -NT - (Another Scott) - (14) - Feb. 6, 2005, 07:57:26 PM EST

The worst fires aren't intended... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Feb. 6, 2005, 08:00:52 PM EST

Yes, but if the arsonists return to the scene over and over - (Another Scott) - (12) - Feb. 6, 2005, 09:57:49 PM EST

But who is Bill Murray? (And what lesson?) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (10) - Feb. 7, 2005, 12:56:58 AM EST

Eh? 27kB - (Another Scott) - (9) - Feb. 7, 2005, 07:38:40 AM EST

I meant in this flame war -NT - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:36:48 AM EST

The flaming participants. -NT - (Another Scott) - (7) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:38:13 AM EST

Which *one* of us? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:40:05 AM EST

Could fit several, perhaps. Why do you ask? -NT - (Another Scott) - (5) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:41:08 AM EST

Very simply... - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:48:58 AM EST

Dunno. I'm a little dense sometimes. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:53:00 AM EST

You might be pretty (?)___decidedly not demure___:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Feb. 8, 2005, 01:41:08 AM EST

If we're choosing sides in Groundhog Day ... - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 7, 2005, 11:56:53 AM EST

No. marlowe can be Ned though. -NT - (Another Scott) - Feb. 7, 2005, 01:38:17 PM EST

well either side isnt bored with it yet :-) -NT - (daemon) - Feb. 7, 2005, 09:20:40 PM EST

Then create one yourself - (lincoln) - Jan. 30, 2005, 10:58:33 PM EST

get customer service on the line - (daemon) - (1) - Jan. 17, 2005, 10:56:20 PM EST

Good advice! -NT - (imric) - Jan. 18, 2005, 06:45:37 AM EST

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