Re: date

Post #19,027 by a6l6e6x 11/20/01 7:44:56 PM Reply	Re: date Would the issuing: date --help be of possible help for the problem you had? Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Post #19,181 by kmself 11/21/01 6:19:07 PM Reply	No `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`
Post #19,204 by wharris2 11/22/01 8:28:35 AM Reply	No, what? The man page on HPUX is pretty decent (and, yes, it gives examples.) "Normal" Unix date doesn't offer the --help option. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #19,220 by kmself 11/22/01 4:32:08 PM Reply	The meaning of "No" I think that's pretty self-sufficient of itself. The `--help` option doesn't provide any additional illumination on the format required to set the date, under my Debian GNU/Linux install. The full relevant text is "`-s, --set=STRING set time described by STRING`". Astute readers will note that the format for STRING is not defined in this context. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`
Post #19,222 by Meerkat 11/22/01 6:28:44 PM Reply	With the Unices available to me... ...Tru64 and Mac OS X/Darwin/BSD/callitwhatyouwill both have good date doco, with clear descriptions of the format required to set the date. Rant On: On a completely different tack, the man page for ssh on Tru64 is simply appalling. It's presented in 80 columns, no matter what. Not a single paragraph break in the whole thing. It seems descriptive text is there, but everything else was ommitted. Take this bit for example, which would seem to be a description of command line options, except there's no clue as to what those options might actually be: Specifies the number of password prompts before giving up. The argument to this keyword must be an integer. Default is 3. Specifies whether to use password authentication. The argument to this keyword must be or Note that this option applies to both protocol version 1 and 2. Specifies the port number to connect on the remote host. Default is 22. Ick. ick. ick. Rant off: Phew. I feel better now. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #19,225 by static 11/22/01 7:35:47 PM Reply	Eew. Looks like faulty nroff/groff processing. At least you've got SSH. I did some work in the DFT the other day, using SSH to communicate with two Linux firewalls. SSH was a rather unfamiliar concept to the Unix staff; they normally blast around the place with telnet... It amazes me that something so recent as HP-UX 10.x still encourages telnet and still permits root to telnet in. I know it probably shouldn't, but it still amazes me. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #19,228 by Meerkat 11/22/01 7:58:57 PM Reply	SSH Well, we sort-of have it. In so far as it doesn't really work since the machine was rebooted. sigh That was about two months ago. But with the man page the way it is, perhaps it's slightly less of a surprise. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #19,234 by wharris2 11/22/01 9:26:51 PM Reply	Can Linux copy other manual pages? As I said, the HPUX man page is pretty decent. Perhaps the maintainers of the Linux "date" man page could take a clue from them. (grits teeth) I don't have a Linux system online right now, maybe one of you could submit a more decent man page. (I'd do it if I had some flavor of Linux connected. My Linux 'puter is currently sitting in the hallway, alas) "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth

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