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New You use terms you don't understand.
Look back at my post that started this thread.

It was in response to your post about, and I summarize, the US bombing anyone that attacks the US in any way.

I pointed out that the US was the instigator in that we had fucked with their countries first. From the CIA working to overthrow existing regimes to our funding death squads.

I also pointed out that Osama was trained by us.

You didn't like that single line.

So I provided links.

You didn't like the links.

You have a fucked up idea of what such training entails.

No, the CIA did not sit Osama down at a desk, in a class room and give him an AK-47 to field strip.

No, the CIA did not sit Osama down and lecture him from a book on military tactics.

Yes, the CIA did provide funding, equipment and trainers for him.

But your fucked up view of what "training" is doesn't even matter.

The original point was that WE fucked with them FIRST.

Your position was that if THEY fucked with US, we'd bomb them.

Listen up. WE STARTED IT.

So, if OUR policy is "fuck with us and we'll fuck you up",

THEN WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE THE SAME POLICY?

If you say they can, then you have no position because we've already fucked with them.

If you say they can't, then you're advocating a pure military might policy.

Just like any other fascist does.

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New Rather than edit that.
I'll just make an addition here.

Skip the part about your post starting it. I know that was marlowe.
New Nit?
Who...exactly did we start it with...and who...exactly...are we fighting.

Of course...the Taliban are bearing the brunt of the attacks at the moment...but didn't all the links basically say we gave them money and training?

So exactly what did we start with them?

Of course...you can't say we destabilized the nation of terrorists...because...um...they have no nation?

Minor point, I know.
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New One step at a time.
Okay, Bill.

#1. Were the Taliban in control of Afghanistan all the time?

#2. If not, when did they take control?

#3. Whom did they take control from?

#4. What part of "destabilizing existing regimes" don't you understand?
New Straight to the point.

Listen up. WE STARTED IT.

So, if OUR policy is "fuck with us and we'll fuck you up",

THEN WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE THE SAME POLICY?

If you say they can, then you have no position because we've already fucked with them.

If you say they can't, then you're advocating a pure military might policy.


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