I'd say parallel development

Post #190,013 by drewk 1/12/05 10:50:21 PM Reply	I'd say parallel development Shows the difference between an OSS project and a corporate gig. Java started with a design. PHP grew up from a hack. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #190,070 by tuberculosis 1/13/05 12:13:16 PM Reply	I dispute that claim Java started as a hack - a toy language to run in VCRs and such. Since it was meant to be a throwaway, not a lot of thought went into it I think. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #191,663 by mmoffitt 1/26/05 8:51:54 AM Reply	Exactly. I usually summarize my view of Java something like this: "Java was some one's neat little school project that other people took entirely too seriously and foisted upon more people who didn't deserve to be so encumbered." bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #190,281 by tablizer 1/15/05 3:57:57 AM Reply	History of PHP in question Shows the difference between an OSS project and a corporate gig. Java started with a design. PHP grew up from a hack. My impression is that OOP was added on to PHP as an afterthought because one of the cofounders of it does not think much of OOP. As PHP became more popular, more people wanted Java-like OOP capabilities, perhaps out of habit. Similarly the originators of Java didn't give much thought to meta abilities in Java, and the later changes to add it seem hacky to many. It is a matter of priorities of the originators. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #190,310 by JayMehaffey 1/15/05 8:16:52 PM Reply	PHP started as less then a scripting language The first version of PHP was just a way to embedd server side tags in pages for things like hit counters. People wanted more and more features added, till somebody eventually added an IF tag and the race was off to create a real languages. As PHP was used for more and more complex projects, the capacity for OO programming was more desirable. OO is overkill for a lot of trivial web projects. But if you need to create a truely complex and powerful system, it is a big advantage. There is a reason PHP is on version 5 when most other languages only have two or three versions no matter how old they are. Jay
Post #190,346 by tablizer 1/16/05 2:10:29 AM Reply	Them 'er fightin' words OO is overkill for a lot of trivial web projects. But if you need to create a truely complex and powerful system, it is a big advantage. Yeah right. Wherezduproof. Let's not go there today. ________________ oop.ismad.com

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