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seems like some here think that there is a "supreme race" of intellectuals who only believe "the right things" and are thus to be deemed "not dangerous". And they should rule the rest because they know whats "good for everybody".

Why not just make the selection by having some watery tart throw a sword at you and be done with it.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New you just described the body politic
ever meet these folks? Its always they know best if only people would listen. Thats why they run, the certainty of rightness.

On the other side you have the 4th estate although after watching Coulter the other day Im not sure that "run hard and put away wet" is a qualification for being a political pundit. You think lacking vague knowledge of daily issues might be a stumbling block.

Then you have the professional anti's. They make a very good living getting donations from the guilt ridden while scamming their ass of without mentioning invisible beings.

Also the idealogues who single issue into a political machine. Much like the anti's they amass fortunes supporting their issue and provide blocks of voters to the various machines. Example is the NEA and NRA.

At the end of the day you have the great unwashed who have vague ideas concerning gran's rantings/wisdom depending on what has happened since. They really dont give a flying fuck who runs it as long as it appears that things might get better in the future. This explains why incumbents have a great advantage.

If I ever get really bored I will build a machine ala Guv Long, Chiles, Hickel and stomp a major hole in both the dems and repo's and get shot for my efforts.

regards,
daemon


that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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New So incoherent and yet so eloquent.
Stab/hug/Stab/hug dichotomy.


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New Why.. nothing at all.
Isn't that what chaos means?

An 'Elite' replacement VS the Original plan?
Not in my mentation. Hah! I wonder just who/which species would watch the Watchers (Gort? or just Klaatu). 'Cui bono' will ever be with us, so long as ego rules the jelloware.

Nope, we lose this imperfect but once ~workable one - We. Lose. I think we are close.

'Democracy' seemed.. our (maybe everyone's) last shining Best Hope. It only needed minimal, but regular/reliable efforts at scrutinizing the Egos volunteering; checking how they *did*: and then throwing out the inevitable %opportunists. Wash, rinse etc.

This has proven to be too onerous a task for the vast majority of Muricans. We have always taken the lazy way out of that critical *scrutinizing*.

Then too, we've always been a Classist society - with the good fortune that the uniquely qualified and beneficent founders, the authors of the clever checks&balances behaved with exemplary equanimity. They did not face the implications of slavery and recognize the rights of *all women* in defining citizenship.

Nobody's perfect, and considering how wise were their other deliberations - a sane few generations of successors would have addressed the omissions / avoided the insanity of not even a century later. (We'll elide the sorry behaviour of the Puritans et al towards the original owners of this huge real estate windfall - and whatever those savage acts might have predetermined, re the occupiers' future fortunes.)

But we didn't get another generation of that primal virtuosity, did we? We got more population, but of what subsequent quality? Especially after we killed off so many young / promising? in that bloodbath, harbinger of WW-I.

Did it work any better when One Job was enough? The little-woman stayed home (and the 2.2 well-dressed kids did not shoot other kids after or during school) etc.
Of course that bucolic '50s image == WASPS only, here in the USA. Women finally got a vote only in *1920* == One Half of our population. Brown V. Board in '54. Cheney, Schwerner et al died in '64. MLK, RFK in '68. Pretty recent stuff re all that 'slavery' Bad juju.

Kicking & screaming - has been our record re correction of those original omissions. And we're still largely a bunch of racist xenophobes, though some numbers suggest a little %progress .. depending on which clan one is speaking from within.

But IF.. there is a 'window' and we are past it; say, there are just too many amidst the 280 million, today unable to meet the basic duties of citizenship and/or too disinterested to try? - then the entropy could only increase.

(And if Elimidate portrays a very large portion of the 18-25 yos? and Reality Tee Vee actually engages an even wider slice -- looks pretty bad for reversing the trend, to moi.)

Finally, if the various religious sects next are going to duel over Winner Take All, henceforth; the protections of minority views erased for hegemony by some mythical 50.1% - then it's a Corporate Theocracy, not just a Corporatocracy, though there may be less difference there than I suppose.

I agree with Mike that it's fair / not heretical or even rude to raise the question, just as we are about to commence a second dose of a secretive, idiosyncratic cabal -- whose original accession was 'clouded' at the most charitable, while a steady drumbeat of G\ufffdbbelsian propaganda has been the theme ever since they were assigned power by those 5 people. (We might.. have done another election; of course, we aren't Ukrainians)

Polarization appears now nearly complete, communication between the poles more improbable than, even during the Chicago police riots at the Demo convention in '68, following all those assassinations. Greed has never been higher on the Hit Parade.

So.. nope, I don't see any 'replacement Authoritarian' contrivance saving people too lazy/bumbling even to perform as citizens. Either. What I do see is - a Radical regime (antithesis of 'conservative'!!) more apt to use nukes if panicked even further, than any I've lived through or read about. (More likely than the USSR, when there was one.) They will do so for the same reason as most any radical/zealot would;

These have Faith that They Are Right, no matter what anyone in the world thinks - including half of *this* population. And growing?



Nobody talking, addressing obvious fuck-ups, admitting even that mistakes were possible (!) Just more dissembling and slogans about Winning Democracy with troops.
Raise any issue: [Shrub] "I support out troops". Ummmmmm - never mind.




Brrrrr. Cold winter. No sign of a thaw.

Want Cosmic humor? Just heard:
Repos want to set aside the Wash election for a new one.
After a recount or two.
Because they lost. This time.
Love. It.

Wonder where they will stash the protesters at the Inauguration.
This time.
Will he be in a Bradley? Eggs should be no problem for that.






Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right.
Laurens van der Post, 1906 - 1996
New Another non-sequitor
sort of...

From Fates Worse Than Death by Kurt Vonnegut

In the children's fable The White Deer, by the late American humorist James Thurber, the Royal Astronomer in a medieval court reports that all the stars are going out. What has really happened is that the astronomer has grown old and is going blind. That was Thurber's condition too, when he wrote his tale. He was making fun of a sort of old poop who imagined that life was ending not merely for himself but for the whole universe. Inspired by Thurber, then, I choose to call any old poop who writes a popular book saying that the world, or at least his own country, is done for, a 'Royal Astronomer' and his subject matter 'Royal Astronomy.' Since I myself have become an old poop at last, perhaps I, too, should write such a book. But it is hard for me to follow the standard formula for successful Royal Astronomy, a formula going back who knows how far, maybe to the invention of printing by the Chinese a couple of thousand years ago. The formula is, of course: 'Things aren't as good as they used to be. The young people don't know anything and don't want to know anything. We have entered a steep decline!' But have we? Back when I was a kid, lynchings of black people were reported almost every week, and always went unpunished. Apartheid was as sternly enforced in my hometown, which was Indianapolis, as it is in South Africa nowadays. Many great universities, including those in the Ivy League, rejected most of the Jews who applied for admission solely because of their Jewishness, and had virtually no Jews and absolutely no blacks, God knows, on their faculties. I am going to ask a question -- and President Reagan, please don't answer: Those were the good old days? When I was a kid during the Great Depression, when it was being demonstrated most painfully that prosperity was not a natural by-product of liberty, books by Royal Astronomers were as popular as they are today. They said, as most of them do today, that the country was falling apart because the young people were no longer required to read Plato and Aristotle and Marcus Aurelius and St. Augustine and Montaigne and the like, whose collective wisdom was the foundation of any decent and just and productive society. Back in the Great Depression, the Royal Astronomers used to say that a United States deprived of that wisdom was nothing but a United States of radio quiz shows and music straight out of the jungles of Darkest Africa. They say now that the same subtraction leaves the United States of nothing but television quiz shows and rock and roll, which leads, they say, inexorably to dementia. But I find uncritical respect for most works by great thinkers of long ago unpleasant, because they almost all accepted as natural and ordinary the belief that females and minority races and the poor were on earth to be uncomplaining, hardworking, respectful, and loyal servants of white males, who did the important thinking and exercised leadership.


You're a good man. Watch your blood pressure. We love you and want to see you ranting for many years to come...
Just a few thoughts,

Danno
New Gotta dash.. get back to ya later, Danno :-)
(Hey.. I take NONE of this stuff seriously - remember? ..some of us see maya as maya.)
What's confusing about That?



sat chit ananda, y'all -

<ob speelingnazi> sequitur as in Gaudeamus igitur cha cha cha
Gotta report this to the IT-English CLO, you understand..
Expand Edited by Ashton Jan. 14, 2005, 06:06:58 PM EST
New Thank you for sparing me
Ashton the grammarian... So I guess your saying mother maya?

Sorry for attributing attributes to you that are non-existential. Which takes us back to the a priori non-sequitur... Nescafe pas?

I'm going to the punitentiary for that last one. Greetings and salutations
Just a few thoughts,
Putting descartes before des horses in South Bend,

Danno
New *choke* ROFL!
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  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Tis beyond my massive power
to save you - since you chose to live in Indiana. They haven't built the punitentiary that can recompile your jelloware -

(Ever run into anyone who knows a little ditty, Indiana We're Coming Home?
My Gramma writ the words; they may be around here somewhere.)

Kurt always gets it right, of course. From the sublime to .. Was just watching Dr. Gene Scott en passant [80 yo energetic geezer + his 20-something wife warbling into the microphone] fulminating with his whiteboards full of Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and God's Own Language..
What a trip - Certainty + gift for gab Gets Girls. Too.

Where did we go wrong? Was it - thinking that if you made colleges, accumulated enough words / cubic closest-packing - you needn't do any deeds (or refrain from doing certain ones)? Kept a lot off the streets, while it lasted.

Truth is: Sergei Nakariakov playing .. anything at all. Transcendently.

(I believe that substituting the sublime for the predictable daily weirdness post-Inaguration - will be the way to go. Who needs to Rapture-out when you can Rapture-in? That's my plan for the duration.)


Cheers,
moi
New ..as Good ..or as Bad
I always got a smile out of Jimmy Carter's title for his book:

"A government as good as its people" (Now unavailable)

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I wonder if he worried about the double entendre? We now have exactly that type of government.
     Moving on ---> to metaphysics and The non-Spotless Mind - (Ashton) - (23)
         democracy is never a good thing - (daemon)
         Has anyone ever been as prescient as Mencken? - (mmoffitt) - (8)
             To repy to you in the "right" forum - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                 You're not likely to see any from me anymore. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                     Remember Nixon? - (danreck) - (5)
                         Whew - (bepatient) - (4)
                             Hey beep - (danreck) - (3)
                                 Yeah...I remember now... - (bepatient)
                                 Where TF is the air clean in Indiana? - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                     The closer you get to Gary - (danreck)
         to be replaced by? - (bepatient) - (9)
             you just described the body politic - (daemon) - (1)
                 So incoherent and yet so eloquent. - (pwhysall)
             Why.. nothing at all. - (Ashton) - (6)
                 Another non-sequitor - (danreck) - (4)
                     Gotta dash.. get back to ya later, Danno :-) - (Ashton) - (3)
                         Thank you for sparing me - (danreck) - (2)
                             *choke* ROFL! -NT - (imric)
                             Tis beyond my massive power - (Ashton)
                 ..as Good ..or as Bad - (dmcarls)
         non-sequitor - (danreck) - (2)
             Moody Blues. - (bepatient)
             If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been - (Ashton)

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