You make several good points; too bad you don't connect them

Post #189,740

1/11/05 9:52:56 AM

ImriSkip goes on:

He [Mike Moffitt - CRC] wants to prevent others from holding office because of their beliefs. He wants to police ideologies that differ with his own?

As if *you* wouldn't, in your heart of hearts, want to "police ideologies that differ with [your] own"? Feh and Bah -- don't even *try* to pull that one.

So would I, for that matter. The only difference between me and, uhm... everybody else, in fact -- is that *my* ideology is the *correct* one. (If only people could *see* that... SIGH!)

Why not 'prevent' supply-siders, and greenfreaks from holding office as well? Their ideologies would end up in poverty and mass starvation, after all.

Actually, you've got a very good point there -- much better than you ever intended, I'm sure...

But know, he pre-judges Christians as a group as 'dangerous'.

"As a group", they undoubtedly are.

On the side, there ARE means to prevent people from holding office. It's called 'voting'. Democracy, remember?

Yeah, well... We've seen how well that works Over There, haven't we...

You are so assured of your superiority that you should rule the majority despite what the actual people want. Amazing. What kind of mental disturbance is that?

Oh, it has many names: Monarchy, aristocracy, oligarchy, despotism, dictatorship...

You know, the system of government that's been humanity's de facto standard for most of its existence.

And it'd work, too, if only the right person(*) were picked to be King.

I'm not surprised that you hold such opinions, though - in your own words, 'Christians' are insane. *chuckle*

Not only that, we're *dangerously* insane!

(*) Hint: His initials are "C. R. C.", and he wrote this post. HTH!

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Post #189,750

by imric

1/11/05 10:52:54 AM

Actually

"As if *you* wouldn't, in your heart of hearts, want to "police ideologies that differ with [your] own"? Feh and Bah -- don't even *try* to pull that one."

Believe what you will. I don't want to police ideologies that differ from my own. I don't want to tell anyone what to think. I might try to convince them to think what I do; I will never relegate a person to 'second-class' with fewer rights and a lower legal status because they believe in another ideology.

"As a group", they undoubtedly are."

Pre-judging an entire group by the actions of the few. I might as well say that "Since some Europeans are Nazis, Europeans as a group are dangerous".

"You know, the system of government that's been humanity's de facto standard for most of its existence."

You mean power granted to individuals and their families by priests? (dictatorships not sanctioned by religion never lasts long) Where the true leaders are religious ones? Hmmm. THAT works well. No, governemnt granted power by the people may be frustrating, it may let unscrupulous bozos into office, but it also provides the means to get them out; it prevents a (hopefully) well meaning few from tyrannizing a majority, and helps with "All men are created equal but some are more equal than others" syndrome.

"Not only that, we're *dangerously* insane!"

As a group?

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Post #190,202

by jb4

1/14/05 1:59:22 PM

It's only correct...

The only difference between me and, uhm... everybody else, in fact -- is that *my* ideology is the *correct* one. (If only people could *see* that... SIGH!)

It's only correct if the CRC matches.....

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