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New Order out of Chaos - God's mechanism for design.
since the theories aren't exactly completely incompatible.

[link|http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/living/10448441.htm|http://www.fortwayne...ving/10448441.htm]

Professional danger comes in many flavors, and although Richard Colling doesn\ufffdt jump into forest fires or test experimental jets for a living, he does do the academic\ufffds equivalent: He teaches biology and evolution at a fundamentalist Christian college.

At Olivet Nazarene University in Bourbonnais, Ill., he says, \ufffdas soon as you mention evolution in anything louder than a whisper, you have people who aren\ufffdt very happy.\ufffd And within the larger conservative Christian community, he adds, \ufffdI\ufffdve been called some interesting names.\ufffd

But those experiences haven\ufffdt stopped Colling \ufffd who received a Ph.D. in microbiology, chairs the biology department at Olivet Nazarene and is himself a devout conservative Christian \ufffd from coming out swinging. In his new book, \ufffdRandom Designer,\ufffd he writes: \ufffdIt pains me to suggest that my religious brothers are telling falsehoods\ufffd when they say evolutionary theory is \ufffdin crisis\ufffd and claim that there is widespread skepticism about it among scientists. \ufffdSuch statements are blatantly untrue,\ufffd he argues; \ufffdevolution has stood the test of time and considerable scrutiny.\ufffd

His is hardly the standard scientific defense of Darwin, however. His central claim is that both the origin of life from a primordial goo of non-living chemicals, and the evolution of species according to the processes of random mutation and natural selection, are \ufffdfully compatible with the available scientific evidence and also contemporary religious beliefs.\ufffd In addition, as he said bluntly, \ufffddenying science makes us (Christian conservatives) look stupid.\ufffd
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That it does.

Its interesting how one can be a real scientist and maintain a belief in religion.

I recall a HS physics teacher who was asked by a student "why does that happen?" His answer: "we'll never know why - we only know how".



"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."     --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."     --George W. Bush
New There's always this old .sig of mine...
Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
New That is LRPD-worthy!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Yup, not bad, but Baad.
     The New Monkey Trial - (Ashton) - (43)
         YAN example of the insidious nature of Fundamentalist Xians. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (33)
             ^^^behold the anti-Christian bigot. ^^^ -NT - (imric) - (32)
                 Some things *deserve* their anti-bigotry. - (CRConrad) - (27)
                     ROFL Other way around, Christian. - (imric) - (26)
                         So here's a question... (new thread) - (inthane-chan)
                         Actually, Skippy, I wouldn't be too sure of that. - (CRConrad) - (24)
                             The difference... - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                                 You rate that far too highly; out of some misplaced respect? - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                     You haven't known many crazies, have you? - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                         Crazy is as crazy does - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                             That's not something I'd say on the web these days. -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                             only useful if he wont leave Jan 2009 - (daemon) - (1)
                                                 Just a step - (tuberculosis)
                                     Or should we go around taking any gibbering certifiable..... - (daemon)
                             Well, Chris - (imric) - (15)
                                 You make several good points; too bad you don't connect them - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                     Actually - (imric)
                                     It's only correct... - (jb4)
                                 Looks like... - (tuberculosis)
                                 And that differs from the Xian Fanactics how? - (jb4) - (10)
                                     Nope. He HAS said those things. In our recent discussions. - (imric) - (8)
                                         Well-enough said, but arabesques The Question - (Ashton) - (5)
                                             What you thought Mike was trying to address ... - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                 And you still set yourself up as 'elite' - (imric) - (3)
                                                     Please see post where you told me to ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                         *grin* Link there, then! -NT - (imric) - (1)
                                                             **chuckle** Follow your own rules, then. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                         Fair enough - (jb4) - (1)
                                             I know. - (imric)
                                     Hmm. Methinks a full thread reading is in ord-ah. - (bepatient)
                 In this case it's not bigotry, it's common sense. -NT - (Meerkat) - (2)
                     I wouldn't have said a word - (imric) - (1)
                         Ah, hadn't read Conflict forum, makes more sense now. -NT - (Meerkat)
                 If a statement like that is all it takes... - (jb4)
         Order out of Chaos - God's mechanism for design. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
             There's always this old .sig of mine... - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                 That is LRPD-worthy! -NT - (jb4)
                 Yup, not bad, but Baad. -NT - (Ashton)
         More rank hypocricy from the Wacko Wright [sic] - (jb4) - (4)
             The real problem w/the religious Right's sex ed policy. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                 s/problem w/\\/goal of / - (drewk) - (2)
                     Shades of "Crazy Eddy..." -NT - (inthane-chan)
                     :-) -NT - (mmoffitt)

Go into the light!
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