Re: Ah...but there's the rub.

Post #18,797 by wharris2 11/19/01 12:59:51 PM Reply	Re: Ah...but there's the rub. that has become so popular with Republican administrations You've got your political party blinders on again. Kennedy, Johnson, even Carter (the fiasco of the military rescue mission to Iran), and of course Clinton over in Bosnia and Serbia and Haiti - why are you singling out Republican administrations when some of the more egregious interventionism has been Democratic? "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #18,802 by Simon_Jester 11/19/01 1:06:16 PM Reply	I have to agree... although I don't want. Yet the facts show that Police Actions have occurred on both sides of the politicial fence with alarming regularity.
Post #18,813 by jb4 11/19/01 1:40:13 PM Reply	Korea. VietNam. And even that stupid exercise of chest-thumping called Grenada. Now take your blinders off. That "fiasco of the military rescue mission to Iran" as you so accurately coined it, was a fiasco, but it was not a "police action". Nor was the Bosnia/Serbia/You-go-slavia thing (well..It might be considered a "police action", but it was hardly a unilateral action such as the ones listed in the headline or Ronald McDonald's little "diversion"; it was A UN-sponsored activity (which was, of course, sponsored by the US...) jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #18,817 by ChrisR 11/19/01 2:09:49 PM Reply	War Powers Nor was the Bosnia/Serbia/You-go-slavia thing (well..It might be considered a "police action", but it was hardly a unilateral action such as the ones listed in the headline or Ronald McDonald's little "diversion"; it was A UN-sponsored activity (which was, of course, sponsored by the US...) I don't suppose I should state the obvious that the UN is not mentioned in the US Constitution concerning the power to declare a War.
Post #18,886 by wharris2 11/19/01 9:09:47 PM Reply	Parsing, parsing How would you define a military action taken without a declaration of war? Undeclared wars: Korea, Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, bombing Quadafi, Bosnia, bombing asprin factories in Sudan, Somalia, and probably a number of others. If it isn't a war, is it a "police action"? If it isn't a police action and it isn't a war, but our troops and their troops are tearing each other up, what would you call it? Is it a police action if we aren't tearing each other up but we only get a couple killed every so often? "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth

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