Post #187,227
12/16/04 5:52:45 PM
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There's another problem with it being gratis.
And that's the IE-Netscape problem all over again: i.e. dump a product for less than it costs them. And we all know Microsoft would probably consider it, too.
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Post #187,231
12/16/04 7:22:18 PM
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It's a bit different from my view.
In the case of IE v.s. Netscape, that was not an "essential" tool to operations. The problem here is that unscrupulous individuals have run away with the "spyware" meme to the point where it is crippling people's computers. I'm making a fair chunk of change off of this ($80-$200 per PC, including Firefox installation, depending on time, if the person is a friend, onsite or delivered, and degree of infection) and each PC is crippled to the point of uselessness before I get to it.
This is not something that a third-party app should be needed to fix - this is IMO something that should be a core OS feature.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #187,239
12/16/04 10:20:39 PM
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I've been doing it for free
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Post #187,270
12/17/04 9:09:08 AM
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If I did that...
...I wouldn't have any free time.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #187,343
12/18/04 8:35:48 AM
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This will be my christmas present to all this year
A CD with all the little things that make life sweet. Firefox, thunderbird, simple written instructions and all the tools to get the system clean in the first place.
I've added AdAware, Spybot and CWShredder to the essential list of cleaners so far. Any additions? And any advice on a solid, free anti-virus utility?
Zone Alarm and urgings to get a router/firewall (Model?) will be included also.
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Post #187,389
12/19/04 12:33:55 AM
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Linkage
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Know/WinXPLockdown|http://twiki.iwethey...now/WinXPLockdown]
There's a specific section on AV software.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #187,425
12/19/04 11:52:37 AM
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Thankee kindly
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Post #187,269
12/17/04 9:03:33 AM
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The difference is
being "good enough" is not enough here. Spyware is not HTML/HTTP - these are actual people bent on beating anti-spyware tools, not some academics releasing updated protocol specs once evry few years.
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Post #187,275
12/17/04 9:34:09 AM
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"Good Enough", will be "Good Enough"...
Every tool I have ever thought to be useful, that was either purchased by or licensed to with features removed and included in the OS Product of thiers, has become a terrible waste of electrons.
The feature will be touted by every M$ SHILL from here to eternity. I really hope, they make a GREAT Tool out of this third rate software that GIANT makes.
Personally, I can see it now, M$'s product will remove the other anti-spyware software as spyware. Then, will go on to lackluster in ability. This is something that sometimes needs to be updated multiple times daily, as well as Anti-virus/worm/macro software can be.
I don't agree with this, this just cut out a major portion of the people who really know howto make these things work. I'll bet you that over 90% of the competing product fall into obscurity and wither away, thereby showing "Good Enough" is "Good Enough"
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Post #187,329
12/18/04 12:38:46 AM
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This is true.
I work for a maker of spyware removal software: [link|http://www.guideworks.com/|http://www.guideworks.com/] So I know it has to be Good, not just Good Enough.
Fortunately, there's a precedent: anyone remember MSAV? Microsoft licensed a version of Central Point Anti-Virus and bundled it with MS-DOS 6. It was awful. People were widely advised to avoid it. Note that Windows 95 never had any anti-virus software... This is much the same deal: if it's not industry-leading from day one, it will sink.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
| -- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne. |
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