How strange.

Post #18,683 by Brandioch 11/18/01 1:19:44 PM Reply	How strange. I have been accused of being nihilistic. Yet I don't see how my beliefs match those you've posted. #1. All values are not worthless. They are "values" because they are "valuable" to the person holding them. What I value and what you value are not necessarily the same. But your values may be meaningless to me. There are no UNIVERSAL values (beyond the animal). #2. See #1. #3. Not necessarily the destruction. But unless you are willing to state that we have achieved the highest level of such, then modification and improvement are possible. #4. Whatever. "Seems to me that one of the fruits of socialism is we shouldn't have to pay their worthless asses." Hmmm, yet the US does have a very strong socialist streak. Weirdness, eh?
Post #18,708 by marlowe 11/18/01 8:12:47 PM Reply	How hairsplitting. Casuistry about "values" aside, by your own admission, 1 and 2 apply to you in every sense that has consequence. A nonuniversal "value" is meaningless in a universe of any type. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #18,717 by Brandioch 11/18/01 11:14:04 PM Reply	Depends upon how you define "meaningless". Japanese culture placed a very high value upon ancestor "worship". Western European culture did not. That "value" shaped their cultures and just about everything about them. Is that "meaningless"? To you, it is. To them, it wasn't. Do you care what your great-great-great-grandfather would think of your actions? "A nonuniversal "value" is meaningless in a universe of any type." That is your opinion. On the other hand, such non-universal values have resulted in the variety of cultures and individuals that we know today. Unless you'd care to expand upon some of the "universal" values that you are aware of? Other than the animal, that is (food, shelter, spawn).
Post #18,736 by gtall 11/19/01 6:52:39 AM Reply	My def was from Webster's II Gerard Allwein

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