Post #185,239
11/28/04 10:55:46 AM
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So what do you call...
...the guy who is Systm Architect, IT Manager, and MIS director all at once, with no CTO (but I do have a PFY)? I'm fishing around for a new title.
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Post #185,242
11/28/04 11:24:06 AM
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Dunno
The more complex your title is, the rinkier dink the organization that you work for looks.
I'd stick with something like Systems/MIS Director, which encompasses both the hardware and software sides, has a hint of business, and says that you have both reports and budget.
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Post #185,288
11/28/04 5:21:22 PM
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We're shying away from 'director' in the title
...due to company history--the last "Director" (of anything) didn't turn out so well.
I'm currently "MIS" and am tired of it ;) I like "Architect", but as we do mostly construction of homes that could get confusing.
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Post #185,313
11/28/04 6:14:14 PM
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Yup, architect bad for you
Systems/MIS Manager
but Director is much better when you are getting vendor's attention.
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Post #185,243
11/28/04 11:41:37 AM
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"The Dude"
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #185,267
11/28/04 1:38:26 PM
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his real name is "Lebowski"?
lincoln
"Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times
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Post #185,248
11/28/04 11:51:51 AM
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VP typewriter mechanic
if you have phones as well Communications Director or IT Director
regards,
daemon
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Post #185,261
11/28/04 1:25:51 PM
8/21/07 6:03:19 AM
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Director of IT
FWIW I've been interviewing a lot of current CTO's lately that want to be project managers or tech leads here.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,286
11/28/04 5:18:01 PM
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Hey, do you need any salespeople?
My brother-in-law is looking. His last gig was [link|http://www.birdstep.com|http://www.birdstep.com] IIRC, and I know before that he sold accelerometers. They live in Bellevue. Smart and honest guy.
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Post #185,353
11/29/04 2:42:21 AM
8/21/07 6:05:35 AM
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Sorry, no - we do all our selling on the website.
Only techies as far as I can see.
Of course, I could have a limited view - check the web site as openings are listed there.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,278
11/28/04 3:36:28 PM
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Chief Geek.
Alex
In politics, what begins in fear usually ends in folly. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet (1772-1834)
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Post #185,287
11/28/04 5:18:17 PM
11/28/04 5:24:41 PM
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Systems Guv'nah
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
Edited by folkert
Nov. 28, 2004, 05:24:41 PM EST
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Post #185,292
11/28/04 5:24:56 PM
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ROFL -- that was quick :)
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Post #185,293
11/28/04 5:25:47 PM
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yeah... just happened to click and see.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,294
11/28/04 5:27:03 PM
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Kingpin of IT
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,295
11/28/04 5:27:53 PM
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Backseat Driver?
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,303
11/28/04 5:37:07 PM
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Everywhere except the business cards ;)
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Post #185,296
11/28/04 5:29:43 PM
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IT Prolocutor
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,297
11/28/04 5:30:22 PM
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Ring Leader
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,298
11/28/04 5:31:00 PM
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The Don of IT?
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,299
11/28/04 5:33:05 PM
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The Godfather?
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,301
11/28/04 5:33:46 PM
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Minister of Progress
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Steve
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Post #185,302
11/28/04 5:36:32 PM
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HA! GOOD ONE!
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,304
11/28/04 5:39:23 PM
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Orwellian: Miniprog. Love it!
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Post #185,317
11/28/04 6:40:22 PM
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TechLord
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How do you convince a Washington Journalist that you're not slapping him in the face?
Tell him you're not.
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Post #185,319
11/28/04 7:00:54 PM
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IT Honcho.
Seriously, Director or Head sounds more professional, but if you've got reasons for nixing Director then I'm not sure what would be better.
Not Evangelist, please. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #185,321
11/28/04 8:29:40 PM
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Why *not* CTO?
Oh right. You're not invited into the boardroom for the important meetings, unless they need someone to set up the projector.</assumption>
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Post #185,349
11/29/04 12:49:56 AM
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(But seriously folks) Two reasons:
1. We only have two C's: CEO and CSO (don't ask), and don't want any more. They're both founders of our little nonprofit. Under those two are 5 team leaders.
2. I'm not a fan of the T. I'm a designer first; techie is a distant 137th. If it has a T in it, I try and hand it off to my PFY. If it's something geekily cool that has no business value, it's more likely to be picked up by our "early adopter" CEO. If any C, I'd be an I--I'm perfectly happy recommending pencil and paper as a "best solution" to an information problem.
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Post #185,351
11/29/04 12:58:36 AM
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Oh come on now
We only have two C's: CEO and CSO (don't ask) You're kidding, right? I was actually going to suggest CI/TO until I saw you had already mentioned "no CTO". So CIO sounds best. Unfortunately the only generally recognized titles that work have Chief or Director in them, and you're excluding both terms. It sounds like your org is small enough that titles don't really matter: Everyone probably knows everyone else and what they really do. So in your case the title is for external consumption. I'd suggest picking the one (Director of IS or CIO) the existing chiefs are willing to live with and getting on with life. ===
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Post #185,374
11/29/04 10:22:18 AM
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Doesn't "Officer" imply legal liability?
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Post #185,393
11/29/04 11:36:53 AM
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Yes, it does
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Post #185,396
11/29/04 11:59:28 AM
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Well, depending on your liability...
...I would suggest steering clear of CTO or CIO, as it usually implies that you are an officer of the company (or foundation).
Of course, if you are an officer, then I'd suggest making that clear in your title.
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Post #185,394
11/29/04 11:39:49 AM
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You've arrived at the fun part
Right; we're small enough I can have whatever title I want. So think FUN titles. :)
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Post #185,502
11/29/04 9:25:51 PM
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Oh, well in that case ... HCIC
Head Cracker In Charge. Modified from the title an urban school principal gave himself: HNIC.
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Post #185,451
11/29/04 5:37:04 PM
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Chief IT pronounce IT or IT
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #185,498
11/29/04 9:01:47 PM
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/me wonders how YOU'd pronounce that sentence.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #185,617
11/30/04 5:23:35 PM
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chief it pronounced eye tee or it
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
clearwater highschool marching band [link|http://www.chstornadoband.org/|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
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Post #185,336
11/29/04 12:02:25 AM
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"Alpha Geek"
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