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Post #184,765
by broomberg
11/22/04 10:48:39 AM
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New Over simplifying
Perl often maps to human language. Created by a linguist, not a Comp-Sci guy. So I don't think you CAN have a single line like that.

You can say MOST things are scalars, which are individual data elements that are usually a strings, but can also be numbers or references (not quite pointers, but very close).

You then have GLOBS and FILE HANDLES, which I decline to go into detail.

You then have arrays and hashes.

Pretty much everything else is built on these.

And yes, since this is off the top of my head, I've probably missed some stuff.
Post #184,838
by tablizer
11/22/04 8:57:08 PM
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New linquistic versus data personalities
Perl often maps to human language. Created by a linguist, not a Comp-Sci guy. So I don't think you CAN have a single line like that.

It seems that some developers tend to think in terms of data structures and others in terms of languistics. Perl is probably the further side of the linguistic side. I lean toward the data structure personality, with tables being my fav "data structure". OO fans tend to be liguistical in my experience.
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     One line description of data model for Perl - (Arkadiy) - (33) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:27:40 AM EST
         Yep, you got it right. - (admin) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:35:05 AM EST
             You're not helping - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:37:48 AM EST
         Perl: Everything is... - (ChrisR) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:45:04 AM EST
         Over simplifying - (broomberg) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:48:39 AM EST
             linquistic versus data personalities - (tablizer) - Nov. 22, 2004, 08:57:08 PM EST
         To pick up from what Barry said. - (static) - (4) - Nov. 22, 2004, 08:05:46 PM EST
             No, everything is whatever Barry needs it to be - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:17:13 PM EST
                 The logic - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 4, 2004, 05:16:08 AM EST
                     Keys... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2004, 12:06:16 PM EST
                         Tie is NOT a module (and it sucks) - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 4, 2004, 04:54:08 PM EST
         Well, Lisp - everything is a list or an atom... - (Simon_Jester) - (18) - Nov. 22, 2004, 10:40:00 PM EST
             Atonm, list, hash... - (Arkadiy) - (17) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:14:04 PM EST
                 References are essentially pointers - (broomberg) - (7) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:30:35 PM EST
                     I am not trying to build anything in particular just now - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Nov. 23, 2004, 07:16:43 AM EST
                         some answers - (cforde) - (5) - Nov. 24, 2004, 01:32:29 AM EST
                             OK, another arbitrary distinction to remember - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Nov. 24, 2004, 10:01:21 AM EST
                                 It's easy enough to test... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Nov. 24, 2004, 11:11:23 AM EST
                                     Yes it is easy to test. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Nov. 24, 2004, 12:31:51 PM EST
                                         Testing has some disadvantages.... - (Simon_Jester) - Nov. 24, 2004, 04:56:19 PM EST
                                 It isn't arbitrary - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 4, 2004, 05:37:15 AM EST
                 References: pointers in languages that don't have pointers -NT - (FuManChu) - Nov. 23, 2004, 12:44:27 AM EST
                 okay...look at it this way.... - (Simon_Jester) - Nov. 23, 2004, 11:01:34 AM EST
                 PERL DOES NOT STORE LISTS!!! - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Dec. 4, 2004, 05:23:10 AM EST
                     OK, in that case, what is (a,b,c) ? - (Arkadiy) - (5) - Dec. 5, 2004, 04:04:07 PM EST
                         In which context? - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 5, 2004, 04:21:12 PM EST
                             In the context of grammar and syntax - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Dec. 5, 2004, 05:14:47 PM EST
                                 Simple answer: there is no syntactic difference - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 5, 2004, 11:06:00 PM EST
                                     OK, I think I get it. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 6, 2004, 09:35:02 AM EST
                                         Yup, sounds like you've got it - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 6, 2004, 11:49:06 AM EST
         lets try another viewpoint - (daemon) - Nov. 25, 2004, 12:37:20 AM EST
         Sorry for not responding in this thread earlier - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 4, 2004, 05:08:26 AM EST
             No worries. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2004, 11:52:30 AM EST
                 :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 4, 2004, 04:55:28 PM EST

Maybe you should try to go over those dark green things.
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