Washington Post on Exit Polling.

Post #184,687 by Another Scott 11/21/04 10:48:41 AM Reply	Washington Post on Exit Polling. [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64906-2004Nov20.html\|Richard Morin]: It will be a few more weeks before we know exactly what went wrong with the 2004 exit polls. But this much we know right now: The resulting furor was the best thing that could have happened to journalism, to polling and to the bloggers who made this year's Election Day such a cheap thrill. That's because the 2004 election may have finally stripped exit polling of its reputation as the crown jewel of political surveys, somehow immune from the myriad problems that affect telephone polls and other types of public opinion surveys. Instead, this face-to-face, catch-the-voters-on-the-way-out poll has been revealed for what it is: just another poll, with all the problems and imperfections endemic to the craft. I've always been skeptical of them. "Perot won 32.87% of voters who love their children, while Clinton won 54.26% of voters who love their pets." :-/ Cheers, Scott.
Post #184,695 by Andrew Grygus 11/21/04 12:43:41 PM Reply	One should also be skeptical of . . . . . the vote count. Where the exit poles were "wrong", they may have been wrong, or they may have been right. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #184,772 by mmoffitt 11/22/04 11:22:44 AM Reply	"Those who vote decide nothing. ... Those who count the votes decide everything." - Uncle Joe. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #184,782 by rcareaga 11/22/04 11:47:54 AM Reply	Re: "Those who vote decide nothing. ... I spent an afternoon earlier this year attempting to track down this alleged quip (extant in half a dozen variations) of Stalin's, and came a cropper. The earliest citation I could find dated only to 1979, in a book called, I believe, Red Monarch by a Soviet emigré. This seems suspect, given that at the time there were already two very similar remarks on record, both of them now included in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, from Anastasio Somoza in 1976 ("You won the election but I won the count") and from Tom Stoppard in his 1972 play Jumpers ("It's not the voting that's democracy, it's the counting"). In the course of these same investigations (spadework prior to putting the completed [link\|http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/diebold/adworks.htm\|Diebold Variations] online) I also discovered that Bismarck's vinegary observation about laws and sausages similarly eludes easy verification. If I had to bet, I'd say that both the Prussian and the Georgian have had these witticisms assigned to them posthumously. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #185,138 by JvlivsCaesar 11/26/04 11:04:54 PM Reply	Re: "Those who vote decide nothing. ... Would the seacond part of that quote happens to be "... it's those who count the votes" If so I think it way be one of Stalins remarks on "Stalin v. Kirov" "election"
Post #185,388 by mmoffitt 11/29/04 11:24:06 AM Reply	Stalin? Who said Stalin? 'Twas MY Uncle Joe ;o) bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)

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