Post #184,384
11/17/04 11:49:57 PM
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Sounds like Oracle have been taking lessons from Microsoft.
You know, writing non-deterministic programs. IMnsHO, Microsoft's greatest sin is teaching the great unwashed that computers are non-deterministic (e.g. a reboot often fixes things).
Wade.
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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #184,412
11/18/04 11:26:42 AM
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Yeah - which is why I dislike the situation so much
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #184,452
11/18/04 7:50:10 PM
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You want non-deterministic?
We install Office XP via group policy here at work.
Over the past few days, local computers have taken to becoming convinced that they are no longer members of the security groups which authorize the installation of Office XP on to the computers. In effect, when people reboot their computers...
Office XP uninstalls. Sometimes.
Then we "gpupdate /force" about a dozen or so times, it reinstalls after a reboot, goes humming along for a few days...
And then does it again.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #184,456
11/18/04 8:09:19 PM
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And people wonder why I won't admin Windows Servers... :-)
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #184,470
11/18/04 9:25:03 PM
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No I don't.
I have zero interest in doing the same.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #184,482
11/19/04 12:35:44 AM
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I have zero interest in administrating Windows.
However, I have a very high interest level in my paycheck.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #184,483
11/19/04 12:43:50 AM
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Anything else...
...is the tail wagging the dog.
Peter
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Post #184,487
11/19/04 12:56:28 AM
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Adminning Windows is too much stress for me.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #184,492
11/19/04 1:22:37 AM
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It's not the computers that stress me...
...and never has been.
It’s the people. It’s the commute. It’s the numbskull HR policies. It’s the mental maze that is the expenses form. It’s the political wrangling over who’s got control of the local DNS/AD/LDAP/NDS/DTSS/NTP/whatever.
The actual computers and the software that runs on them are fairly low down on the list of things to get wound up about.
An OS is an OS is an OS. They’re all shit, in one way or another. Fanboidom is pointless; I used to say that I’d work on anything with a power switch.
Peter
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Post #184,579
11/20/04 7:39:42 AM
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When Linux breaks, there's a reason.
And usually a nice sane reason. And if it's an insane reason, it's usually because someone you probably work with has made an insane change.
IME, Windows likes to sometimes break "just because it feels like it". This is stressful. More so when you have someone relying on you to have it working - which it was an hour earlier - and they are wondering what kind of meds you're on because it's broken, you keep telling them you don't know why, and they're not sure they believe you when say you didn't touch it.
</rant>
OTOH, I *have* had major major stress from administering a security policy created by auditors who decided to Do Things Right but secure in the knowledge that It Would Not Be Them Doing It. Right down to specifying equipment they couldn't believe was reliable only because we wouldn't follow some of their more extreme rules. I believe Those In Charge wisely and quietly decided, unfortunately after this was irrevocably in place, that auditors were never to be allowed to do that again.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
| -- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne. |
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