It's now illegal to see the law that is being applied to you

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Last month, Helen Chenoweth-Hage attempted to board a United Airlines flight from Boise to Reno when she was pulled aside by airline personnel for additional screening, including a pat-down search for weapons or unauthorized materials.

Chenoweth-Hage, an ultra-conservative former Congresswoman (R-ID), requested a copy of the regulation that authorizes such pat-downs.

"She said she wanted to see the regulation that required the additional procedure for secondary screening and she was told that she couldn't see it," local TSA security director Julian Gonzales told the Idaho Statesman (10/10/04).

"She refused to go through additional screening [without seeing the regulation], and she was not allowed to fly," he said. "It's pretty simple."

Chenoweth-Hage wasn't seeking disclosure of the internal criteria used for screening passengers, only the legal authorization for passenger pat-downs. Why couldn't they at least let her see that? asked Statesman commentator Dan Popkey.

"Because we don't have to," Mr. Gonzales replied crisply.

"That is called 'sensitive security information.' She's not allowed to see it, nor is anyone else," he said.

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Post #184,367 by daemon 11/17/04 6:37:25 PM Reply	It's now illegal to see the law that is being applied to you wilkommen kamerad [link\|http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2004/11/111404.html\|http://www.fas.org/s...04/11/111404.html] Last month, Helen Chenoweth-Hage attempted to board a United Airlines flight from Boise to Reno when she was pulled aside by airline personnel for additional screening, including a pat-down search for weapons or unauthorized materials. Chenoweth-Hage, an ultra-conservative former Congresswoman (R-ID), requested a copy of the regulation that authorizes such pat-downs. "She said she wanted to see the regulation that required the additional procedure for secondary screening and she was told that she couldn't see it," local TSA security director Julian Gonzales told the Idaho Statesman (10/10/04). "She refused to go through additional screening [without seeing the regulation], and she was not allowed to fly," he said. "It's pretty simple." Chenoweth-Hage wasn't seeking disclosure of the internal criteria used for screening passengers, only the legal authorization for passenger pat-downs. Why couldn't they at least let her see that? asked Statesman commentator Dan Popkey. "Because we don't have to," Mr. Gonzales replied crisply. "That is called 'sensitive security information.' She's not allowed to see it, nor is anyone else," he said. daddy why are black men hanged for kissing white wimmens? its a secret, national security regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #184,460 by JayMehaffey 11/18/04 8:28:46 PM Reply	Expect to see a lot of this The government seems to have realized that it is much harder to challenge a law or regulation if you can't see it. The rule could litterally be that 25% of all black, hispanic and turban wearing passengers + any women you want to pat down are subject to additional searches and as long as they can keep the rule secret it won't be a problem. The above case wouldn't even have made the news, except they accidently targeted a politician. I expect one of the major reasons for a push for a national identification card is too prevent these sorts of problems. They can identify and avoid harrasing anybody with enough political power or money to challenge the law. Jay
Post #184,745 by Ashton 11/22/04 5:44:33 AM Reply	Jawohl.. but wouldn't a Party Badge do as well?

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