Post #182,591
11/3/04 7:34:53 PM
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But you're not anti-American. Nope.
You just think a country that disagrees with you is stupid and deserves to collapse. Nope, no intolerance or bigotry here.
Don't worry. A country that deserves to collapse will collapse eventually. Happens every time. But a country that *you* think deserves to collapse isn't necessarily one that does so deserve. So don't go holding your breath.
Now go find your happy place.
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Post #182,632
11/3/04 9:33:54 PM
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At this point - I AM ANTI-AMERICAN
Fuck America. Clearly I have nothing in common with the mindless fools who voted for:
A war we didn't need that has drained our military capability to deal with the real threats of N Korea and Iran. Even Reagan's military advisors and cabinet members characterize Iraq as a "strategic blunder".
A massive tax hike on our children (tax cuts with deficits are tax increases on the next generation - get an econ book - read it).
A "leader" who lacks flexibility to adapt to changing data and is basically Bin Ladin's shmoe.
The most secretive administration ever (surpassing Nixon).
Job losses are in fact climbing again.
If this is America - you take it. I'll start looking for decent digs elsewhere.
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Post #182,645
11/3/04 10:00:53 PM
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Come to Britain!
Seriously.
It's a winner on a couple of counts:
1. No Marlowe and his ilk; they're strictly a US phenomenon.
2. Universal healthcare.
3. The beer. Oh, the beer. Swoon.
4. Jobs with overtime. 80-hour weeks and weekend working are not expected.
5. We're all lefty scum who believe in the welfare state and stuff.
6. We drive on the correct side of the road, and crash less than Americans. Ten times less per capita.
7. You get to listen to Radio 4.
8. Cost of living is a bit less if you stay out of London, which is still Planet Expensive.
9. Although we like to rib you for being uncouth oiks on the internet, in person, we love Americans.
10. Eurostar My house -> Paris is about 5 hours on the train, and I live in the frozen north-east. (Mind, who'd want to go to PARIS? It's full of terrorist-loving FRENCH people.)
11. We don't have that chest-beating thing going on. Anyone going "I love this country *snif*" is likely to be laughed at, not admired.
Downsides:
1. It rains a bit.
2. Eating out is going to be a bit of a come-down.
3. You pay more tax.
4. Petrol is more expensive (about 2x what it is in the US right now)
5. We're all commie pinko leftists who believe in the welfare state and stuff; ask Marlowe.
6. Chavs. But you have those, too.
7. I'm not sure that there's a straight bit of road for more than about a couple of miles anywhere in the country.
8. The current wave of anti-asylum-seeker hysteria is annoying.
9. Tony Blair. It'll pass, and there's enough good eggs in the Labour Party to outweigh him. Gordon Brown in particular is an intellectual giant who I hope to see in number 10 soon.
10. Channel 5. It's like a crap version of ITV, and that's pretty darned crap.
11. Possible downside - cars are almost all manual transmission. If you have a licence earned in an automatic, you'll need to take your test again in a manual to drive one.
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Post #182,648
11/3/04 10:05:41 PM
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how much is a
cost of 4 bedroom house/rent per month or cost of purchase
pound of beef
pound of porkchops
pint of beer
loaf of bread
dozen eggs
pound of bacon
pound of sausage
packet of fish n chips
can a nix admin make 65k euros a year, if so after taxes what is left
serious questions,
regards,
daemon
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Post #182,655
11/3/04 10:20:28 PM
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Re: how much is a
cost of 4 bedroom house/rent per month or cost of purchase Property is expensive. For something you’d actually want to live in, you’re looking at around \ufffd600-\ufffd1500 a month rent for a 4 bedroomed place. pound of beef About \ufffd1.50 pound of porkchops \ufffd2ish pint of beer Varies. My local: \ufffd2 for a pint of decent real ale. Sam Smith pubs are about \ufffd1.50 a pint for the house brew. loaf of bread 50p dozen eggs \ufffd1 pound of bacon Dunno. pound of sausage \ufffd1.50ish packet of fish n chips Where I live, it's about \ufffd3 for fish & chips can a nix admin make 65k euros a year, if so after taxes what is left Without doubt. That's circa \ufffd45K, which is an entirely reasonable expectation for a senior administrator. I reckon you'd end up with, after taxes, pension/savings, etc, about \ufffd30K in your pocket. I generally work on the principle that a third of your salary goes on tax and deductions. serious questions, Serious answers.
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Post #182,674
11/3/04 10:40:20 PM
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so $30k quid after taxes
2500 quid per month 1500 after rent
$380 per week to live on
case of beer 356
average cost of 3 lbs meat*6 =36 leaves 320
other food brekkie and lunch for kids 100 leaves 220
cable phone net electric etc ?Guess? 100 leaves 120
notice I havnt bought clothes gas or insurance or made car payments, would be tough to do
thanks for the info
regards,
daemon
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Post #182,679
11/3/04 10:45:15 PM
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Many people manage it
I could live like a king on \ufffd45K.
Doesn't the missus work? You could farm the sprogs out to a childminder.
Peter
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Post #182,680
11/3/04 10:46:52 PM
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I have to feed 4 of them
so the cost of a minder would wipe out the second job earnings.
regards,
daemon
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Post #182,681
11/3/04 10:50:28 PM
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Would it?
You could always dispose of a couple into white slavery.
Peter
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Post #182,684
11/3/04 11:01:30 PM
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well I could say I was taking my wife to see the old country
and hire a sitter for a few days, and not come back, is there extradition between the US and here?
seriously my brother makes 60k euros in holland with 2 kids and has to work a second job to make ends meet and my sisterinlaw is the fabulous marckie (runs a talent agency) they bust butt to break even
regards,
daemon
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Post #182,649
11/3/04 10:10:08 PM
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What are the requirements to be approved for immigration?
Aside from vast amounts of cash. And do you mind if I choose Ireland instead of your island?
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Post #182,661
11/3/04 10:26:18 PM
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I don't have the foggiest idea.
Try this site: [link|http://www.workpermit.com/uk/uk.htm|http://www.workpermit.com/uk/uk.htm]
And Ireland is nice, but you’ll find the tax burden hefty, the locals unintelligible and the driving... interesting. Or free-form. :-)
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Post #182,695
11/3/04 11:40:34 PM
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I've been there.
I love London. I can't afford London, but I like it. Your climate is too cold though (I'm having issues with Seattle still).
I've recently been on a walkabout in Panama. I *like* Panama. Its CHEAP. They use dollars so no money conversion issues. Many Americans are choosing to retire there because:
1) Its CHEAP (get a house - on the beach - for about $100k)
2) Dollars (no exchange rate worries)
3) Decent health care.
4) English friendly
5) GREAT Coffee
6) GREAT selection of tropical fruits
7) No hurricanes (too close to the equator).
8) 2-3 Hour flight from Miami.
9) Mountains, Beaches, Rivers, Rain Forest, Wildlife.
10) Panamanians are NICE people.
Also looking at OZ.
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Post #182,734
11/4/04 4:39:38 AM
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I second that
Matthew Greet
But we must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig, cow after cow, village after village, army after army. And they call me an assassin. What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin? They lie. They lie and we must be merciful to those who lie.
- Colonol Kurtz, Apocalypse Now.
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Post #182,735
11/4/04 4:41:53 AM
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Not that easy
You don't exactly have an open-door policy, even for skilled workers.
In fact no one does - other than us.
-drl
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Post #182,736
11/4/04 7:16:32 AM
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No, you don't.
Peter
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Post #182,740
11/4/04 7:47:51 AM
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We will now.
So long as you are willing to undercut a US worker's pay, that is.
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- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
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Post #182,760
11/4/04 10:03:24 AM
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Paying the prevailing wage is NOT undercutting US workers
There is wage disparity even here in the US. Costs more to live in NYC and LA than Des Moines or Lincoln. Therefore workers are paid more in LA & NYC. If a company moves from LA or NYC to Des Moines or Lincoln, do they still need to pay the NYC/LA wages? Nope.
If I move to UK, GY, or India, should I expect to receive the US wages? Nope.
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