Kerry needed to reject gay marriage more strongly...

Post #182,534 by ben_tilly 11/3/04 1:59:42 PM Reply	Kerry needed to reject gay marriage more strongly... if he wanted to win. Sure, he said that he believed that marriage was between a man and a woman. But he didn't state it nearly as forcefully as Bush, and he was from the state that legalized gay marriage. There were 11 states where gay marriage was on the ballot. It passed in all 11. That issue also brought out the evangelical vote in a big way. Those states were Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, Utah and Oregon. Note Ohio - this measure guaranteed that Bush's base was going to turn out in a critical battleground state. I firmly believe that Bush would have lost without the gay marriage issue. Furthermore if the Democrats want to make a comeback, a very good way to do it would be to pin the "h" word on the Republicans - hypocrite. They didn't even try to do that this year. Hopefully next time they do do it. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #182,544 by deSitter 11/3/04 2:40:31 PM Reply	My campaign motto It'll be too late in 2008 -drl
Post #182,573 by Andrew Grygus 11/3/04 6:59:53 PM Reply	Yup, the that's the way to do it. I remember years ago a moron public interst lawayer (Eddie Tabash, who I dealt with in person) who pretty much destroyed everything he touched, put on the ballot a rediculously badly worded gun control measure. The right wingers came out of the woodwork in vast quantity to vote against it and while they were there they "voted against the nigger", so we got the disasterous Dukmajian governorship from which we're still recovering instead of Tom Bradley, respected former mayor of Los Angeles. Of course they alos voted against every other even slightly progressive measure. For the curious, Dukmajian held up all funds for infrastructure improvement and social programs for two terms. The only programs he would release money for were building new prisons. I think we still have a couple that aren't open because there was no funding to run them. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #182,595 by mmoffitt 11/3/04 7:53:23 PM Reply	Ah, the Duker. Man, that takes me back. I haven't lived in California since 1980 but il Duker is a legend. bcnu, Mikem "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell

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