Post #181,559
10/28/04 6:30:12 PM
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Oh, come on...
Libertarians are assholes. Malthusian milquetoastes. Darwin butt boys. If you really want to see your vote count (as I do every 4 years in the "by county" tallies) vote for Adlai Stevenson (or even Julius Caesar, etc.)
We can change the world, Beep! NOT!
If you only allow your ethos to overcome your logos, you can almost see God... Funny how in discussions about mythos noone actually questions the atheists on motive. If you don't get a woody during the SSBanner - if your nipples don't get hard when you think of baseball and apple pie - if you don't feel almost breathless as the assclown of "your party" tells you what you want and HOW TO BELIEVE... "If you only BELIEVE, we can eliminate the national debt, stop that great big sucking sound, etc. Can I count on your vote?"
How can you possibly be a conscientious member of American society. Damnit, it's your obligation to VOTE! Libertarian... please, why don't you just become a communist or... a child molester... or move to France!
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
"You know that the hypnotised never lie... Do ya!"
P. Townsend
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Post #181,562
10/28/04 6:48:50 PM
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Its simple, really.
I would normally pick between the 2 parties. I may still change my mind...though I'm not undecided.
Both candidates suck too much. And since the "real" candidates suck that bad, I can feel free to vote party.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #181,566
10/28/04 7:21:27 PM
10/28/04 8:44:41 PM
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I've gone that way in the past, but not this time.
According to [link|http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Pennsylvania_Fall%202004.htm|Rasmussen], PA is leaning toward Kerry with 49:46. It's still pretty close, and I have no idea how accurate his polls will turn out to be. It's close enough that your vote might have an impact.
I'm probably going to vote for Kerry, but since I live in VA it probably won't affect the outcome. And Kerry should probably prefer that I not vote for him - I haven't voted for the winner yet (not since 1980). ;-)
The Libertarians have some attractive positions, but they muck it up by going so far overboard on idealogical purity. I see nothing wrong with having a toll-free interstate highway system, for instance. They should find a libertarian issue and push to get that in the forefront of political discussion. Perot was popular, when he was popular, because he hammered on the federal budget deficit. Not because people liked his position on bananna imports or something. The Libertarians should have learned from his success.
Anyway, I can't vote Libertarian any more. Nader got my vote last time, but I disagree with too many of his positions to go that way again.
If I may, I'd recommend looking at where you want the country to be 4 years from now and voting for the person that you think will be more likely to help the country get there.
We'll see what happens.
[edit:]
And if, say, you're from a state like, say, oh, I don't know, [link|http://www.rasmussenreports.com/New%20Jersey_Fall%202004.htm|New Jersey] that is 53:44 with Kerry in the lead, well then you can vote your conscience without worrying about whether your vote will make a difference. And safely ignore my comments. ;-)
Cheers, Scott. (You know what free advice is worth. :-)
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Post #181,567
10/28/04 7:33:08 PM
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Except...
Bill lives in NJ... ;-)
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #181,569
10/28/04 7:51:49 PM
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a lot of people vote in both places :-)
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #181,570
10/28/04 7:55:47 PM
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vote early, vote often
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Post #181,578
10/28/04 8:39:44 PM
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D'oh! I knew that. My excuse-he talks about Philly too much.
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Post #181,580
10/28/04 8:42:55 PM
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Jersey burbs of Philly.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #181,581
10/28/04 8:44:04 PM
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Over by the Delaware-Water Gap?
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Post #181,583
10/28/04 8:49:55 PM
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Actually...
..the Delaware Water Gap is way north of here...in the Northwest part of the state.
Beautiful country...you'd never associate it with New Jersey :-)
I'm in southwest Jersey..
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #181,579
10/28/04 8:41:49 PM
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Jersey still about 8 points...
in the Blue.
They're a bit worried...but not enough to get Kerry here...only the Veepster candidate Edwards.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #181,588
10/28/04 9:03:53 PM
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worried around here, we had edwards Yesterday
and Kerry back again tomorrow, I have already voted but the crap going on I might escort my wife to the polls in case some dickwad has a problem. regards, daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #182,270
11/2/04 2:32:45 PM
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Andrew Tanenbaum says NJ is tied 42:42. You voted yet?
[link|http://www.electoral-vote4.com/|Electoral Vote].
Make sure it's your fault, OK?
;-)
Cheers, Scott.
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