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New Oh, come on...
Libertarians are assholes. Malthusian milquetoastes. Darwin butt boys. If you really want to see your vote count (as I do every 4 years in the "by county" tallies) vote for Adlai Stevenson (or even Julius Caesar, etc.)

We can change the world, Beep! NOT!

If you only allow your ethos to overcome your logos, you can almost see God... Funny how in discussions about mythos noone actually questions the atheists on motive. If you don't get a woody during the SSBanner - if your nipples don't get hard when you think of baseball and apple pie - if you don't feel almost breathless as the assclown of "your party" tells you what you want and HOW TO BELIEVE... "If you only BELIEVE, we can eliminate the national debt, stop that great big sucking sound, etc. Can I count on your vote?"

How can you possibly be a conscientious member of American society. Damnit, it's your obligation to VOTE! Libertarian... please, why don't you just become a communist or... a child molester... or move to France!
Just a few thoughts,

Danno

"You know that the hypnotised never lie... Do ya!"

P. Townsend
New Its simple, really.
I would normally pick between the 2 parties. I may still change my mind...though I'm not undecided.

Both candidates suck too much. And since the "real" candidates suck that bad, I can feel free to vote party.



If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New I've gone that way in the past, but not this time.
According to [link|http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Pennsylvania_Fall%202004.htm|Rasmussen], PA is leaning toward Kerry with 49:46. It's still pretty close, and I have no idea how accurate his polls will turn out to be. It's close enough that your vote might have an impact.

I'm probably going to vote for Kerry, but since I live in VA it probably won't affect the outcome. And Kerry should probably prefer that I not vote for him - I haven't voted for the winner yet (not since 1980). ;-)

The Libertarians have some attractive positions, but they muck it up by going so far overboard on idealogical purity. I see nothing wrong with having a toll-free interstate highway system, for instance. They should find a libertarian issue and push to get that in the forefront of political discussion. Perot was popular, when he was popular, because he hammered on the federal budget deficit. Not because people liked his position on bananna imports or something. The Libertarians should have learned from his success.

Anyway, I can't vote Libertarian any more. Nader got my vote last time, but I disagree with too many of his positions to go that way again.

If I may, I'd recommend looking at where you want the country to be 4 years from now and voting for the person that you think will be more likely to help the country get there.

We'll see what happens.

[edit:]

And if, say, you're from a state like, say, oh, I don't know, [link|http://www.rasmussenreports.com/New%20Jersey_Fall%202004.htm|New Jersey] that is 53:44 with Kerry in the lead, well then you can vote your conscience without worrying about whether your vote will make a difference. And safely ignore my comments. ;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
(You know what free advice is worth. :-)
Expand Edited by Another Scott Oct. 28, 2004, 08:44:41 PM EDT
New Except...
Bill lives in NJ... ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New a lot of people vote in both places :-)
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
New vote early, vote often
New D'oh! I knew that. My excuse-he talks about Philly too much.
New Jersey burbs of Philly.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Over by the Delaware-Water Gap?
New Actually...
..the Delaware Water Gap is way north of here...in the Northwest part of the state.

Beautiful country...you'd never associate it with New Jersey :-)

I'm in southwest Jersey..
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Jersey still about 8 points...
in the Blue.

They're a bit worried...but not enough to get Kerry here...only the Veepster candidate Edwards.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New worried around here, we had edwards Yesterday
and Kerry back again tomorrow, I have already voted but the crap going on I might escort my wife to the polls in case some dickwad has a problem.
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
New Andrew Tanenbaum says NJ is tied 42:42. You voted yet?
[link|http://www.electoral-vote4.com/|Electoral Vote].

Make sure it's your fault, OK?

;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
     Dumbest political statement of the season... - (jb4) - (70)
         Re: anti-choice but silence on adoption. - (mmoffitt) - (69)
             Talked to a Bush supporter yesterday. - (admin) - (51)
                 I, too, had a chat with some one. - (mmoffitt) - (50)
                     It was allowed because it _IS_ - (ben_tilly) - (49)
                         So, being pro-life is also being pro-big Government... - (jb4) - (39)
                             Huh? -NT - (bepatient) - (38)
                                 Anti-abortion laws are government regulations-think about it -NT - (ben_tilly) - (37)
                                     But ... - (bepatient) - (36)
                                         Huh? - (ben_tilly) - (35)
                                             The original federal charter - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                 Except that it was. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                                     As with any good warm-up - (bepatient)
                                                     Supporting Bill's original statement - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Oh, you mean like the 2000 election... - (jb4) - (5)
                                                     Find one - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                         Result not important, the action is! - (jb4) - (3)
                                                             Why are you blaming me? - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                 It's clear now, you don't understand basic rhetoric! - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                     Interesting - (bepatient)
                                                 Then you are making a judgement - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                     Not the first time - (bepatient)
                                             OK, here's the BeeP Rosetta Stone - (jb4) - (22)
                                                 You have the wrong guy. - (bepatient) - (21)
                                                     This Rosetta Stone far antedates the "Bush Revolution" - (jb4)
                                                     Re: You have the wrong guy. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                         C'mon...read the polls. - (bepatient)
                                                         I wouldn't brag. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                             Who's bragging? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 You'd be insecure, too. - (mmoffitt)
                                                     I thought Libertarians were pro-choice? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                         They are. - (bepatient)
                                                     Oh, come on... - (danreck) - (12)
                                                         Its simple, really. - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                             I've gone that way in the past, but not this time. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                 Except... - (admin) - (6)
                                                                     a lot of people vote in both places :-) -NT - (daemon) - (1)
                                                                         vote early, vote often -NT - (ChrisR)
                                                                     D'oh! I knew that. My excuse-he talks about Philly too much. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                         Jersey burbs of Philly. -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                             Over by the Delaware-Water Gap? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                                 Actually... - (bepatient)
                                                                 Jersey still about 8 points... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     worried around here, we had edwards Yesterday - (daemon)
                                                                     Andrew Tanenbaum says NJ is tied 42:42. You voted yet? - (Another Scott)
                         Sorry, it is not. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                             So... - (bepatient)
                             Church vs State - a recap for your benefit - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 Sorry, forgot one word. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     You don't know me very well then - (ben_tilly)
                                     Commandments - (bepatient)
                             God can't have anything to do with it - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                 Complicating factor of money - (bepatient)
                                 Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             One quick google.. - (bepatient) - (16)
                 Some one else? Jerry Falwell, perhaps? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     If you want... - (bepatient)
                 How 'bout the pResident's brother, JEB! - (jb4) - (13)
                     Not surprised at all - (bepatient) - (8)
                         But would it surprise you to see... - (jb4) - (7)
                             No...what surprises me... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                 Agreed -- NOT limited to FL & TX - (jb4) - (5)
                                     Aren't you in TX? - (bepatient) - (4)
                                         Not in your life! - (jb4) - (1)
                                             oops. My mistake...I knew that. -NT - (bepatient)
                                         Texas is as self-centered in the U.S. - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                             One does not hand out Repo endorsements "right & left" - (jb4)
                     Actually they encourage abandonment, not abortion... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                         better than bodies in dumpsters during prom night -NT - (daemon) - (2)
                             That's nine months AFTER prom night. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                 not in joisey - (daemon)

Ever since then, I can easily spot a sociopathic liar.
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