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New One quick google..
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...to put a dent in your sweeping generalization.

Keyes is an idiot. Pick someone else to base generalizations on at least. It will make you sound a little more "reasoned".
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Some one else? Jerry Falwell, perhaps?
bcnu,
Mikem

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell
New If you want...
...I'll be happy to marginalize your opinion even more ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New How 'bout the pResident's brother, JEB!
As seen through another [link|http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/132/51.0.html|"quick Google search]
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Christianity Today, Week of August 19

Weblog: Florida Adoption Law Causing Abortion, Say Lawyers


Plus: Giving Drew University the finger (of George Whitefield), and other stories from online sources around the world.
Compiled by Ted Olsen | posted 08/23/2002

Florida'a adoption notification law under fire


The state of Florida requires that mothers who want to give their children up for adoption must notify the child's father. That sounds awfully family-friendly, doesn't it? But the law goes further: mothers who don't know who the father is must place a newspaper advertisement announcing she plans to do so. The National Post of Canada reports, "It requires that they publish details of every sexual encounter that could have caused the pregnancy, along with names\ufffdif possible\ufffdand descriptions of the men, in the local newspaper where the incident took place, so any men who may be the father and want to contest the adoption can come forward."

And that, say critics, is not only ridiculous, it's anti-life. Lawyers fighting the law claim mothers are choosing to have abortions rather than submit to such embarrassment. Just how bad is this law? Find another abortion-related issue where Jerry Falwell and the National Organization for Women have joined forces.

"Gov. Jeb Bush, who allowed the legislation to become law without his signature, supports a system that allows men who believe they might have fathered a child to put their name in a confidential registry that must be checked during adoption proceedings," reports the Associated Press. The St. Petersburg Times notes that 30 other states already have similar registries

But this shouldn't surprise anyone, now should it? (Not even you, BeeP)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Not surprised at all
to see idiotic legislation passed anywhere..especially in FL.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New But would it surprise you to see...
that the vast majority of such comes from FL & TX, and that there is a correllation between the ersatz governors of those states and the volume of said legislation?

Shouldn't....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New No...what surprises me...
...is that you try to limit such idiocy to those states to try and prove some point.

The issue of idiot laws being passed is not confined to FL and TX, trust me. Take it from a guy who's state government tried to ban Ladies' Night.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Agreed -- NOT limited to FL & TX
Just that most of it eminates from there...for a reason....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Aren't you in TX?
Might just be the skew in your media coverage.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Not in your life!
I'm expatriate New Messican, hiding here in the Midwest around Chicago.


Go Cubs!......er.....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New oops. My mistake...I knew that.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Texas is as self-centered in the U.S.
...as the U.S. is to the rest of the world.

Be glad when the elections are over as the neighborhood is littered with Martin Frost / Pete Sessions signs - definitely ranks as one of the most carved out gerrymandered districts of all time. Surprisingly, the Dallas Morning News endorsed Frost (probably felt guilty about all those Repub endorsements they've been handing out right and left).

Locally speaking, the Frost/Sessions campaign is as vicious as the Presidential campaign is in the contested states. Haven't seen a single Kerry ad (but it'd be a waste of money anyhow).
New One does not hand out Repo endorsements "right & left"
One hands out Repo endorsements right....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Actually they encourage abandonment, not abortion...
as Florida has an abandonment law as well. All a mother has to do is leave the child at an abandonment center (most Firehouses), and there are no questions.
New better than bodies in dumpsters during prom night
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
New That's nine months AFTER prom night.
New not in joisey
[link|http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/24/prom.baby.presser/|http://www.cnn.com/U...rom.baby.presser/]
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
     Dumbest political statement of the season... - (jb4) - (70)
         Re: anti-choice but silence on adoption. - (mmoffitt) - (69)
             Talked to a Bush supporter yesterday. - (admin) - (51)
                 I, too, had a chat with some one. - (mmoffitt) - (50)
                     It was allowed because it _IS_ - (ben_tilly) - (49)
                         So, being pro-life is also being pro-big Government... - (jb4) - (39)
                             Huh? -NT - (bepatient) - (38)
                                 Anti-abortion laws are government regulations-think about it -NT - (ben_tilly) - (37)
                                     But ... - (bepatient) - (36)
                                         Huh? - (ben_tilly) - (35)
                                             The original federal charter - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                 Except that it was. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                                     As with any good warm-up - (bepatient)
                                                     Supporting Bill's original statement - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Oh, you mean like the 2000 election... - (jb4) - (5)
                                                     Find one - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                         Result not important, the action is! - (jb4) - (3)
                                                             Why are you blaming me? - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                 It's clear now, you don't understand basic rhetoric! - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                     Interesting - (bepatient)
                                                 Then you are making a judgement - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                     Not the first time - (bepatient)
                                             OK, here's the BeeP Rosetta Stone - (jb4) - (22)
                                                 You have the wrong guy. - (bepatient) - (21)
                                                     This Rosetta Stone far antedates the "Bush Revolution" - (jb4)
                                                     Re: You have the wrong guy. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                         C'mon...read the polls. - (bepatient)
                                                         I wouldn't brag. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                             Who's bragging? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 You'd be insecure, too. - (mmoffitt)
                                                     I thought Libertarians were pro-choice? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                         They are. - (bepatient)
                                                     Oh, come on... - (danreck) - (12)
                                                         Its simple, really. - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                             I've gone that way in the past, but not this time. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                 Except... - (admin) - (6)
                                                                     a lot of people vote in both places :-) -NT - (daemon) - (1)
                                                                         vote early, vote often -NT - (ChrisR)
                                                                     D'oh! I knew that. My excuse-he talks about Philly too much. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                         Jersey burbs of Philly. -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                             Over by the Delaware-Water Gap? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                                 Actually... - (bepatient)
                                                                 Jersey still about 8 points... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     worried around here, we had edwards Yesterday - (daemon)
                                                                     Andrew Tanenbaum says NJ is tied 42:42. You voted yet? - (Another Scott)
                         Sorry, it is not. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                             So... - (bepatient)
                             Church vs State - a recap for your benefit - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 Sorry, forgot one word. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     You don't know me very well then - (ben_tilly)
                                     Commandments - (bepatient)
                             God can't have anything to do with it - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                 Complicating factor of money - (bepatient)
                                 Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             One quick google.. - (bepatient) - (16)
                 Some one else? Jerry Falwell, perhaps? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     If you want... - (bepatient)
                 How 'bout the pResident's brother, JEB! - (jb4) - (13)
                     Not surprised at all - (bepatient) - (8)
                         But would it surprise you to see... - (jb4) - (7)
                             No...what surprises me... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                 Agreed -- NOT limited to FL & TX - (jb4) - (5)
                                     Aren't you in TX? - (bepatient) - (4)
                                         Not in your life! - (jb4) - (1)
                                             oops. My mistake...I knew that. -NT - (bepatient)
                                         Texas is as self-centered in the U.S. - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                             One does not hand out Repo endorsements "right & left" - (jb4)
                     Actually they encourage abandonment, not abortion... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                         better than bodies in dumpsters during prom night -NT - (daemon) - (2)
                             That's nine months AFTER prom night. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                 not in joisey - (daemon)

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