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Post #181,306 by deSitter 10/27/04 8:25:10 PM Reply	Never ended Bush represents the old radical social reformers who wanted to subjugate the South, and would hear of no compromise - leading to the war. That is it, in a sentence. Curiously, the Confederate spirit is alive and well - in the Blue states. It is people with pride and conscience locked horns against crass commercial interests. -drl
Post #181,320 by deSitter 10/27/04 9:05:57 PM Reply	If we win next Tuesday ..and I think we will - we owe it to the Jersey Girls, those 9/11 widows, without whom there would have been no 9/11 commission and subsequent torrent of truth about the rotten shitbums in this administration. Read about the "unmaking of Dub" and his wretched criminal gang here: [link\|http://salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/10/27/bush_presidency/index.html\|http://salon.com/opi...idency/index.html] -drl
Post #181,604 by tangaroa 10/28/04 10:28:42 PM Reply	Curious I see things precisely the other way around, with Bush and his party representing the Confederate principle of holding property above human rights. Seems Confederate values means different things to different people.
Post #181,623 by deSitter 10/29/04 5:05:27 AM Reply	Well, you're wrong :) Remember, the winner gets to write history. It would not be surprising to find large numbers of people with the wrong idea, 140 years later. The North - that is, Yankee commercial interests - were uncompromising instigators and invaders. The war could have been avoided again and again in the years from 1848 to 1860. -drl
Post #181,655 by inthane-chan 10/29/04 11:20:42 AM Reply	Read "Wealth and Democracy." The leaders of both sides were bastards, and the people payed for their greed. Of course, that's a vast simplification, and I expect Mr. Sitter to apply his flamethrower (running low on ammo yet?) to me in about three seconds after I hit reply. All I want for my birthday is a new President!
Post #181,656 by deSitter 10/29/04 11:23:24 AM Reply	Not at all - you're right (or KP is rather) My heart is with the citizens who died to protect their homes and cities. The Yankee spirit lived on after the war, and the existing Republican worldview is the natural inheritor and expression of the bastardry of those times. -drl
Post #181,728 by daemon 10/29/04 6:00:59 PM Reply	Re: Read "Wealth and Democracy." He stated that, \ufffdMy devotion to the Union of our fathers had been so often and so publicly declared; I had on the floor of the Senate so defiantly challenged any question of my fidelity to it; my services, civil and military, had now extended through so long a period and were so generally known, that I felt quite assured that no whisperings of envy or ill-will could lead the people of Mississippi to believe that I had dishonored their trust by using the power they had conferred on me to destroy the government to which I was accredited. Then, as afterward, I regarded the separation of the States as a great, though not the greater evil.\ufffd" now read the man's adress in full [link\|http://www.swcivilwar.com/DavisFirstInaug.html\|http://www.swcivilwa...isFirstInaug.html] regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE

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