Post #181,105
10/26/04 11:54:48 PM
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Rain again in LA
Nothing spectacular, but significant and steady. Reports are we may have a record October for rain (it usually comes much later (the rain, not October)). Of course, if we have a wet winter, that means some other part of the country will experience a shortfall.
These rains have served to remind me that the sunward side of my roof will have to be replaced this coming summer. Definitely it will not go another winter. This will be a hefty job because there are already two layers of shingles and the rules are it must all come off before reshingling. It will be big blue bin rental time.
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Post #181,107
10/27/04 12:24:33 AM
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Go for the metal
I like the [link|http://www.metalroofing.com/|standing seam].
Never need to do your roof again. Of course, if you don't plan on being alive past the time it will pay for itself ...
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #181,112
10/27/04 3:23:10 AM
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Ah yes .. roofs
Ditto ~ 9 years ago. I also decided to just layer over, since the original wasn't yet leaky.. just nearly denuded of epidermis, from solar flares. Worked with a local guy; thought I should find out how this stuff is done. Much sweat equity.
One pesky thing I hope you don't find - turned out that the fascia boards were too thin to properly maintain roof stiffness (as in, a birdcage Maserati space-frame?) as well as deteriorated. We renewed them all around, with those handy biscuits + glue at angle changes. A certain satisfiction of cabinetmaker kind, along with careful priming, including all hidden surfaces.
You could tell just walking on it - the effect of the restored 'space-frame' on general feeling of solidity. Then too - the mindless satisfiction of keeping all the edges straight within a 1/32", just for Fun. May yours provide some opportunity for over-building too ;-)
1.5" here in a bit over 1 day, yesterday; also a recent record for this month. Happiness is that snug (& smug).. WTF do I care? - that roof's for the Ages.
Ashton, roofer 3rd-class
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Post #181,123
10/27/04 6:15:33 AM
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Re: Rain again in LA
Ugh. Once I was tasked with shingle removal from a decrepit, abandoned house. Several times during this job I wanted to just dive head first off the roof. Underneath the numberless layers of shingles, teeming hordes of large black carpenter ants were none too happy to have their cozy retreats so rudely exposed. The temperature on the ground was somewhere in the mid-90s and on the roof, it was like the surface of Mercury. I can't remember a nastier job.
-drl
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Post #181,223
10/27/04 2:42:23 PM
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"Tasked"?
I‘ll verb you with sentences, you PHB-channeller, you.
Peter [link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home]
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Post #181,250
10/27/04 4:03:08 PM
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WTF not? :)
[link|http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=tasked&x=22&y=13|Transitive verb].
Alex
In politics, what begins in fear usually ends in folly. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet (1772-1834)
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Post #181,252
10/27/04 4:04:44 PM
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Re: WTF not? :)
Particularly if it implies odious labour. See? I can spell labour!
-drl
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Post #181,257
10/27/04 4:14:07 PM
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No you can't... extraneous U's
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Post #181,276
10/27/04 5:21:40 PM
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Oh, it is NOW.
Bah! Bah!
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Post #181,283
10/27/04 6:28:29 PM
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He tasks me! He tasks me and I will have him!
-- Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
:P
-- Chris Altmann
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Post #181,295
10/27/04 7:49:23 PM
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1828, anyone?
[link|http://65.66.134.201/cgi-bin/webster/webster.exe?search_for_texts_web1828=task|http://65.66.134.201...exts_web1828=task]
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Post #181,304
10/27/04 8:19:55 PM
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GREAT link :)
-drl
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Post #181,319
10/27/04 9:04:49 PM
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Re: He tasks me! He tasks me and I will have him!
I'll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares malestrom and round perdition's flames before I give him up."
YES!!! My favorite Star Trek Movie!!!!!
KHANNNNNNNNN!!!!!
Nightowl >8#
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
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Post #181,321
10/27/04 9:07:30 PM
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of course, it's from Melville, not Roddenberry :)
-drl
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Post #181,600
10/28/04 10:08:13 PM
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Moby Dick?
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Post #181,602
10/28/04 10:21:01 PM
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I believe so
I'll check and get back to you.
Nightowl >8#
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
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Post #181,603
10/28/04 10:24:15 PM
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Can't find it definitively
But I still think it was Moby Dick.
Nightowl >8#
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
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Post #181,610
10/28/04 11:12:01 PM
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Close
[link|http://www.online-literature.com/melville/mobydick/37/|Chapter 36]: "Hark ye yet again- the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event- in the living act, the undoubted deed- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike though the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me. For could the sun do that, then could I do the other; since there is ever a sort of fair play herein, jealousy presiding over all creations. But not my master, man, is even that fair play. Who's over me? Truth hath no confines. Take off thine eye! more intolerable than fiends' glarings is a doltish stare! So, so; thou reddenest and palest; my heat has melted thee to anger-glow. But look ye, Starbuck, what is said in heat, that thing unsays itself. There are men from whom warm words are small indignity. I meant not to incense thee. Let it go. Look! see yonder Turkish cheeks of spotted tawn- living, breathing pictures painted by the sun. The Pagan leopards- the unrecking and unworshipping things, that live; and seek, and give no reasons for the torrid life they feel! The crew, man, the crew! Are they not one and all with Ahab, in this matter of the whale? See Stubb! he laughs! See yonder Chilian! he snorts to think of it. Stand up amid the general hurricane, thy one tost sapling cannot, Starbuck! And what is it? Reckon it. 'Tis but to help strike a fin; no wondrous feat for Starbuck. What is it more? From this one poor hunt, then, the best lance out of all Nantucket, surely he will not hang back, when every foremast-hand has clutched a whetstone. Ah! constrainings seize thee; I see! the billow lifts thee! Speak, but speak!- Aye, aye! thy silence, then, that voices thee. (Aside) Something shot from my dilated nostrils, he has inhaled it in his lungs. Starbuck now is mine; cannot oppose me now, without rebellion." He didn't like him much. I don't like being heaped myself. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
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Post #181,614
10/28/04 11:40:00 PM
10/28/04 11:40:39 PM
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Thanks!
I couldn't search the entire text. :)
Maybe Roddenberry adapted it then? All I know is when the camera pans across the cabin where Khan lives, there's a dusty copy of Moby Dick there. :)
*************************** Excerpt copied from the original script: KHAN'S QUARTERS19 on its side in the sand: the walls are not the floor, etc. All in crookedness - like its owner. On the floor, smiling at them (i.e., the wall) is a BABY.
Tentatively they come over to it, looking around - 20ANGLE - CHEKOV'S POV20 Lethal-looking odd swords on one wall, a bookshelf; CAMERA PANS by 20th Century volumes; MOBY DICK, KING LEAR, THE HOLY BIBLE - and a seat belt dangling with the name on it - BOTANY BAY. ****************************
So it makes sense to me, that someone who cared about Moby Dick that much, and read it, might quote it when stalking Kirk. ;)
Nightowl >8#
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Edited by Nightowl
Oct. 28, 2004, 11:40:39 PM EDT
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Post #181,141
10/27/04 8:34:08 AM
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Consider the solar options.
I have no idea what these things cost (I'm sure they're expensive though), but if I had a south-facing roof at an appropriate slope I'd consider them.
E.g. [link|http://www.solarserver.de/lexikon/solardachziegel-e.html|here].
Even solar water heaters might be a good option for you and your climate. Who wouldn't like sauna water for "free"? :-)
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #181,396
10/28/04 10:00:26 AM
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Costs
This statement should provide a clue...
Solar roof tiles make a good choice for special architectural or aesthetic uses and needs when cost concerns are not at the forefront
emphasis added
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #181,425
10/28/04 11:37:55 AM
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Brochure talk for 'If you need to ask . . . '
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Post #181,188
10/27/04 12:40:07 PM
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Well, got the leak over the entrance room anyway.
Last weekend I had to rebuild the light fixture because I hadn't noticed the globe was filled completely with water from the previous torrent. Since that light is always on at least partially (dimmer), the socket contacts had corroded into disfunction (the fixture did make entertaining spitting and fizzing noises with flashing light effects after I emptied the water out).
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