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Post #179,029 by bepatient 10/12/04 11:44:00 PM Reply	What? They run the tightest IT shops in industry from policy and licensing pov. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #179,030 by deSitter 10/12/04 11:45:26 PM Reply	Exactly admin: "Apparently you've never worked in the financial industry." I suppose credit card distribution and administration also would go under the heading "financial industry", am I right? -drl
Post #179,033 by admin 10/12/04 11:51:50 PM Reply	Er, duh? My point was that you don't have to be a BIG company to have a tight IT policy, which is what you intimated with your assertion that I had never worked in a big shop. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #179,034 by deSitter 10/12/04 11:58:35 PM Reply	Re: Er, duh? My point was that IT policy in a large corporation is almost incidental to the culture of upward managerial mobility, which requires a covered ass at all times. Despite all the strict rules, I've seen the very same thing in the financial industry. The best boss I ever had was a former VP of Colorado Nat'l Bank (30 yrs there), who was locked in a stupid, withering political struggle against the P and his hatstand Windows minions. Tight mandated policy or no, corporate behavior often devolves to foreskin. -drl

Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (deSitter) - (33) - Oct. 12, 2004, 07:31:20 PM EDT

You're confused - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:07:30 PM EDT

And lo, Trevor proves my point - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:13:42 PM EDT

Re: Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (daemon) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:11:25 PM EDT

Re: Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:14:25 PM EDT

How much "support" does vim really need, anyway? - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 10:53:34 AM EDT

None, but what does that matter? - (deSitter) - Oct. 13, 2004, 10:55:38 AM EDT

Amazing... - (ben_tilly) - (22) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:35:43 PM EDT

Re: Amazing... - (deSitter) - (5) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:48:13 PM EDT

That was a simple statement of fact - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:10:35 PM EDT

Programmers are often naive about group action in IT - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:42:00 PM EDT

If only you'd provide me with facts to deal with - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:02:06 AM EDT

Nice facts - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 09:13:40 AM EDT

Didn't I ask you to cut out the unsupported opinions? - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:00:10 PM EDT

Ditto - (admin) - (15) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:04:26 PM EDT

And the largest place you've worked is? - (deSitter) - (12) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:33:17 PM EDT

What does that have to do with anything? - (admin) - (11) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:00:15 PM EDT

Everything - (deSitter) - (10) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:37:01 PM EDT

Wrong. - (admin) - (9) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:41:24 PM EDT

Do banks count? No? -NT - (deSitter) - (8) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:42:35 PM EDT

Do you have a point? -NT - (admin) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:43:31 PM EDT

What? - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:44:00 PM EDT

Exactly - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:45:26 PM EDT

Er, duh? - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:51:50 PM EDT

Re: Er, duh? - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:58:35 PM EDT

How about Morgan Stanley? - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:07:28 AM EDT

This really needs to be broken out: Morgan Stanley on Linux. (new thread) - (folkert) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:13:35 AM EDT

Super, perceptions must be changing -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:23:12 AM EDT

Back in my SA days... - (lister) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2004, 03:37:38 PM EDT

DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winnah! -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 19, 2004, 07:10:55 PM EDT

"prevailing attitude" - BS - (broomberg) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:29:42 PM EDT

K+R HP kernel compiler - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:31:29 PM EDT

Oh that's just stupid - (broomberg) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:11:52 PM EDT

It's a yob, ya know? :) -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:38:51 PM EDT

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