"prevailing attitude" - BS

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Post #179,006 by broomberg 10/12/04 10:29:42 PM Reply	"prevailing attitude" - BS Maybe in your experience, but certainly not mine. I've met lots of sysadmins. I've NEVER heard that stated about core utility software such as vim, bash, Perl, etc. Where you do hear that, often, and it is reasonable, is cornerstone business software such as a CRM system. Things that need ongoing care and feeding are usually not a good candidate for Open Source when there is a political battle. How about this: What C compiler is on your system?
Post #179,007 by deSitter 10/12/04 10:31:29 PM Reply	K+R HP kernel compiler No C programmers here, ergo no C compiler. COBOL compiler though! -drl
Post #179,013 by broomberg 10/12/04 11:11:52 PM Reply	Oh that's just stupid Accept that you have the gig, it pays the bills, and anything you need a decent tool set will be running off your Linux PC. How do you access it? Telnet or SSH. If SSH, a commercial one or Open Source? If telnet, take a hammer to the sysadmin.
Post #179,024 by deSitter 10/12/04 11:38:51 PM Reply	It's a yob, ya know? :) -drl

Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (deSitter) - (33) - Oct. 12, 2004, 07:31:20 PM EDT

You're confused - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:07:30 PM EDT

And lo, Trevor proves my point - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:13:42 PM EDT

Re: Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (daemon) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:11:25 PM EDT

Re: Asked our UNIX SA to install vim on 11i box - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:14:25 PM EDT

How much "support" does vim really need, anyway? - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 10:53:34 AM EDT

None, but what does that matter? - (deSitter) - Oct. 13, 2004, 10:55:38 AM EDT

Amazing... - (ben_tilly) - (22) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:35:43 PM EDT

Re: Amazing... - (deSitter) - (5) - Oct. 12, 2004, 09:48:13 PM EDT

That was a simple statement of fact - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:10:35 PM EDT

Programmers are often naive about group action in IT - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:42:00 PM EDT

If only you'd provide me with facts to deal with - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:02:06 AM EDT

Nice facts - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 09:13:40 AM EDT

Didn't I ask you to cut out the unsupported opinions? - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:00:10 PM EDT

Ditto - (admin) - (15) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:04:26 PM EDT

And the largest place you've worked is? - (deSitter) - (12) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:33:17 PM EDT

What does that have to do with anything? - (admin) - (11) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:00:15 PM EDT

Everything - (deSitter) - (10) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:37:01 PM EDT

Wrong. - (admin) - (9) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:41:24 PM EDT

Do banks count? No? -NT - (deSitter) - (8) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:42:35 PM EDT

Do you have a point? -NT - (admin) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:43:31 PM EDT

What? - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:44:00 PM EDT

Exactly - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:45:26 PM EDT

Er, duh? - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:51:50 PM EDT

Re: Er, duh? - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:58:35 PM EDT

How about Morgan Stanley? - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:07:28 AM EDT

This really needs to be broken out: Morgan Stanley on Linux. (new thread) - (folkert) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:13:35 AM EDT

Super, perceptions must be changing -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:23:12 AM EDT

Back in my SA days... - (lister) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2004, 03:37:38 PM EDT

DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winnah! -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 19, 2004, 07:10:55 PM EDT

"prevailing attitude" - BS - (broomberg) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:29:42 PM EDT

K+R HP kernel compiler - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2004, 10:31:29 PM EDT

Oh that's just stupid - (broomberg) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:11:52 PM EDT

It's a yob, ya know? :) -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 12, 2004, 11:38:51 PM EDT

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