Post #178,499
10/8/04 4:36:37 PM
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Misinterpretation.
Which was what I thought was happening.
Making energy use in this country prohibitively expensive compared to the nations not regulated by the protocol would have destroyed the already feeble chance we had at locating new manufacturing jobs in this country.
Following the link will take you to their statement of position.
While most of the info is pretty much bunk...I agree with the conclusion that the protocol was bad and could not be signed.
In order to make sure you had a workable protocol that would actually help the global enviroment...China and the rest of Southeast Asia would have to be included.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #178,694
10/10/04 10:22:31 AM
10/11/04 1:11:29 PM
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A new low. You're defending ...
the conclusions of that site. Wow.
[Edit: for the nit-pickers amongst us]
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
Edited by mmoffitt
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:11:29 PM EDT
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Post #178,699
10/10/04 11:26:53 AM
10/11/04 1:50:52 PM
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This is pretty neat (and post edit makes this nonsensical)
"While most of the info is pretty much bunk" is a defense?
Cool.
Post edit...its still an idiotic line of reasoning..even after the "clarification"
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Edited by bepatient
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:50:52 PM EDT
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Post #178,745
10/11/04 9:09:57 AM
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No. But the "Yabut they're right" is.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,752
10/11/04 10:50:16 AM
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So -
Information is bunk, though he agrees with the conclusion = "defending this site" as "a new low"?
OK - so if I put up a really stupid and offensive site that defends something you agree with, that means that your agreement with a conclusion in said hypothetical site means that you have reached a new low?
I thought not.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #178,761
10/11/04 11:45:21 AM
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Means your argument (and site) are worthless.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,763
10/11/04 11:56:49 AM
10/11/04 1:09:22 PM
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Uh huh. It does.
But does it justify casting aspersions on anyone that agrees with the conclusions reached on that site? Regardless of how those conclusions were reached?
Nope.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Edited by imric
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:09:22 PM EDT
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Post #178,767
10/11/04 12:19:37 PM
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If its me, sure :-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,772
10/11/04 1:11:43 PM
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Why not? You'd do the same for me...;-)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #178,780
10/11/04 1:52:33 PM
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Probably not ;-)
I'd probably go further overboard with you :-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,773
10/11/04 1:11:49 PM
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Sheesh. Look at it now.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,775
10/11/04 1:26:00 PM
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And I forgot, "Like minds and all that" ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,778
10/11/04 1:46:07 PM
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*chuckle* So, if I created a web site that said...
... that the Bible, and those religions based upon it, supported
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism",
that would mean that you supported literal interpretation of the Bible?
Would that mean you were of 'like mind' with the writers of the Bible?
Heehee.
OK, I'm done...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #178,786
10/11/04 3:08:13 PM
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And how can I follow that? :0)
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,800
10/11/04 4:40:57 PM
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Oh ye of little flibberty-gibbedness . . .
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