Post #178,479
10/8/04 2:48:09 PM
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For those like me, found a cool site...
[link|http://www.stentorian.com/politics/|http://www.stentorian.com/politics/]
It's a mishmash of stuff but well consolidated and downright cynical/funny...
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #178,482
10/8/04 3:05:35 PM
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Oh THAT'S it! The Kyoto Protocol causes outsourcing.
Thank God(tm)! we didn't sign on to that!
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,493
10/8/04 4:09:42 PM
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Where'd you see that one?
I saw a couple references to the treaty but nothing said that.
I didn't scour the page, though.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,496
10/8/04 4:19:48 PM
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RHINO, bottom left.
Here's the text: Lincoln Chafee (RhINO) and Lamar Alexander (RhINO) prove either their incompetence or their disloyalty to the United States by supporting the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty. What part of "ship jobs offshore" don't they understand? bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,499
10/8/04 4:36:37 PM
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Misinterpretation.
Which was what I thought was happening.
Making energy use in this country prohibitively expensive compared to the nations not regulated by the protocol would have destroyed the already feeble chance we had at locating new manufacturing jobs in this country.
Following the link will take you to their statement of position.
While most of the info is pretty much bunk...I agree with the conclusion that the protocol was bad and could not be signed.
In order to make sure you had a workable protocol that would actually help the global enviroment...China and the rest of Southeast Asia would have to be included.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,694
10/10/04 10:22:31 AM
10/11/04 1:11:29 PM
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A new low. You're defending ...
the conclusions of that site. Wow.
[Edit: for the nit-pickers amongst us]
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
Edited by mmoffitt
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:11:29 PM EDT
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Post #178,699
10/10/04 11:26:53 AM
10/11/04 1:50:52 PM
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This is pretty neat (and post edit makes this nonsensical)
"While most of the info is pretty much bunk" is a defense?
Cool.
Post edit...its still an idiotic line of reasoning..even after the "clarification"
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Edited by bepatient
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:50:52 PM EDT
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Post #178,745
10/11/04 9:09:57 AM
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No. But the "Yabut they're right" is.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,752
10/11/04 10:50:16 AM
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So -
Information is bunk, though he agrees with the conclusion = "defending this site" as "a new low"?
OK - so if I put up a really stupid and offensive site that defends something you agree with, that means that your agreement with a conclusion in said hypothetical site means that you have reached a new low?
I thought not.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #178,761
10/11/04 11:45:21 AM
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Means your argument (and site) are worthless.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,763
10/11/04 11:56:49 AM
10/11/04 1:09:22 PM
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Uh huh. It does.
But does it justify casting aspersions on anyone that agrees with the conclusions reached on that site? Regardless of how those conclusions were reached?
Nope.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Edited by imric
Oct. 11, 2004, 01:09:22 PM EDT
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Post #178,767
10/11/04 12:19:37 PM
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If its me, sure :-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,772
10/11/04 1:11:43 PM
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Why not? You'd do the same for me...;-)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #178,780
10/11/04 1:52:33 PM
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Probably not ;-)
I'd probably go further overboard with you :-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #178,773
10/11/04 1:11:49 PM
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Sheesh. Look at it now.
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,775
10/11/04 1:26:00 PM
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And I forgot, "Like minds and all that" ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,778
10/11/04 1:46:07 PM
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*chuckle* So, if I created a web site that said...
... that the Bible, and those religions based upon it, supported
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism",
that would mean that you supported literal interpretation of the Bible?
Would that mean you were of 'like mind' with the writers of the Bible?
Heehee.
OK, I'm done...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #178,786
10/11/04 3:08:13 PM
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And how can I follow that? :0)
bcnu,
Mikem
"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
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Post #178,800
10/11/04 4:40:57 PM
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Oh ye of little flibberty-gibbedness . . .
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Post #178,485
10/8/04 3:18:23 PM
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Define like you: idiot?
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,513
10/8/04 5:44:45 PM
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Critics voice, take your choice...
seems to me that you're not much of a "free thinker"... Could be the binary in you?
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #178,525
10/8/04 7:07:57 PM
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It seems to me that I don't care about your opinion
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,560
10/8/04 11:23:08 PM
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Why? Dano is a righteous guy
-drl
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Post #178,592
10/9/04 8:20:00 AM
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It seems to me you care more than you'll admit.
By the way, I thought the graphics on the site were less than effective. 3D rendering just doesn't work for me as a tool for caricature.
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Post #178,589
10/9/04 3:04:02 AM
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Stentor/loud? Nahhh.. just juvenile-vicious.html
in My Gramma mode. (And stentor works fine sans the -ian, as a noun. Typical word-butchery; sounds like Rush-with-pix.)
Kinda makes SNL look almost Good, no? Gotta love the "Democratic Left Line" - at least one ~reminder per \ufffd; is there an attention span problem with the audience? Sheesh, Dan - sending us to a Frat party, but without Belushi for comic relief?
You and your logic. We never hear about anything but your logic. Everything I propose you batter down with your logic. I'm fed up with you and your cold, rational criticism.
Himmler, to Heydrich
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