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Post #178,220 by bepatient 10/7/04 11:57:50 AM Reply	No I'm not. They included the quote. Published the article. Its not froth bud. Or do you consider calling out CBS for rushing to judgement on the Bush stuff "frothing" as well? I might have to call you on that word like you called me on "hammered" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #178,223 by mmoffitt 10/7/04 12:01:38 PM Reply	And the fact that he changed his schedule? That part of his normal plan all along? Like, when you say, "I meant to do that" when you screw up? bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #178,226 by bepatient 10/7/04 12:04:20 PM Reply	He's been to PA quite a bit. Because the polls are close...and the Reps think they can actually win the state. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #178,231 by mmoffitt 10/7/04 12:21:57 PM Reply	Sorry, not where he was, what he said. From the article emphasis mine: Bush's scowling and annoyed appearance in the debate was widely panned, prompting Bush's campaign to substitute the speech for a re-election event in Wilkes-Barre that was to focus on medical liability reform. bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #178,234 by bepatient 10/7/04 12:32:50 PM Reply	Did you listen to the speech? ANd is it "panic" that would cause a change after the VP debate when they can reinforce the points that they were successful with the night before? The spin is >panic<. You seem to believe it. Neato I don't think so...one man's thought and a major networks carrying of that thought notwithstanding...that is politics as usual. Panic would require a change of message. They might have changed the focus of the speech...but there has been no change in message. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #178,239 by mmoffitt 10/7/04 12:46:34 PM Reply	Know who really is in panic? Me. Now that Gus Hall is gone, I really don't have anyone left to vote for. ;-) bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #178,243 by bepatient 10/7/04 12:49:32 PM Reply	Writing in Marty Brewster myself. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #178,305 by Ashton 10/7/04 5:49:46 PM Reply	sedulous/deer-headlights/panic____{sheesh}
Post #178,308 by bepatient 10/7/04 5:55:27 PM Reply	Re: sedulous/deer-headlights/panic____{sheesh} Anyone got a deAshtonizer? ;-) If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #178,324 by Ashton 10/7/04 6:41:30 PM Reply	s/deer-in-headlight/panic - W's inner-'mental' state, verily
Post #178,250 by jb4 10/7/04 1:35:33 PM Reply	Yellow Hankie! Illegal Change of Subject! 5 yards and loss of momentum! It's now Second Down! Beep, how 'bout for once you stick to the topic at hand, instead of wildly changing the subject when you have nothing else to answer with. The subject is a CNN article on the Cheney-Edwards debate. Do try to stay on target, OK? The timekeepr will now start the clock.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #178,259 by bepatient 10/7/04 2:08:50 PM Reply	no. that was the discussion. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

Bush campaign in damage control mode - (admin) - (42) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:47:58 AM EDT

Not. - (bepatient) - (39) - Oct. 6, 2004, 11:07:42 AM EDT

We have a winnah! - (mmoffitt) - (38) - Oct. 6, 2004, 11:51:13 AM EDT

Why don't you... - (bepatient) - (34) - Oct. 6, 2004, 11:53:33 AM EDT

The "facts"???? - (mmoffitt) - (33) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:39:06 AM EDT

Ok...so you disagree on that word.. - (bepatient) - (13) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:42:02 AM EDT

You're still frothing.... - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:52:25 AM EDT

No I'm not. - (bepatient) - (11) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:57:50 AM EDT

And the fact that he changed his schedule? - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:01:38 PM EDT

He's been to PA quite a bit. - (bepatient) - (7) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:04:20 PM EDT

Sorry, not where he was, what he said. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:21:57 PM EDT

Did you listen to the speech? - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:32:50 PM EDT

Know who really is in panic? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:46:34 PM EDT

Writing in Marty Brewster myself. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:49:32 PM EDT

sedulous/deer-headlights/panic____{sheesh} -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 05:49:46 PM EDT

Re: sedulous/deer-headlights/panic____{sheesh} - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 05:55:27 PM EDT

s/deer-in-headlight/panic - W's inner-'mental' state, verily -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 7, 2004, 06:41:30 PM EDT

Yellow Hankie! - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:35:33 PM EDT

no. - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:08:50 PM EDT

In subsequent polling, it now looks like Cheney won slightly - (ben_tilly) - (18) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:49:13 AM EDT

That was my read... - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:59:58 AM EDT

Now that is spin. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:00:09 PM EDT

Who'd you watch, FOX? - (bepatient) - (7) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:03:16 PM EDT

MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CNN and Imus. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:20:02 PM EDT

Imus? Might as well stick with Fox :-) -NT - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:33:36 PM EDT

I'd watch FOX, too. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:48:50 PM EDT

No way! - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 7, 2004, 12:56:58 PM EDT

I listen to Imus every morning. - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:15:18 PM EDT

Quack! Quack! - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:38:21 PM EDT

not for a while. - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:11:43 PM EDT

Why, indeed! - (jb4) - (7) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:42:31 PM EDT

:-D -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:07:02 PM EDT

Talk radio - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:13:14 PM EDT

What about the Corporate News Network (CNN)? - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:36:17 PM EDT

I don't think so. - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:45:19 PM EDT

My brother calls it the Clinton News Network! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 7, 2004, 03:27:48 PM EDT

Gah! You and I live in different worlds. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 05:05:18 PM EDT

Don't doubt that. - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2004, 05:22:43 PM EDT

Re: We have a winnah! - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 05:37:46 PM EDT

Remind me to get that in the mail to you. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:28:39 PM EDT

Splosh! -NT - (pwhysall) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:29:51 PM EDT

Bush gets a "do-over". Networks pay for hour long ad. - (Silverlock) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:04:21 PM EDT

Wrong. He'd still come in third. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 7, 2004, 02:07:40 PM EDT

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