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Post #178,121
by daemon
10/6/04 10:20:16 PM
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New Re: Nothing to do with sacrosanct
but everytime (of course depending on how one makes money for their respective company) is a learning knowledge transfer experience. Always of value. Using manage speak I am the mumbler in the corner who can do anything that no one else can figure out as opposed to the team member who can sort of do a lot but passes off to the mumbler when arcane crap comes up. Lots of room for team members, mumblers one per work sector.
regards,
daemon
Post #178,125
by broomberg
10/6/04 10:37:52 PM
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New What the hell is that supposed to mean?
That you do obscure things in order to protect your turf?

What arcane task REQUIRES you to recompile your kernel?

And yes, I accept that there will be times that require it, but it should be made with complete knowledge of the possible downsides.

Here is an example that bit my boss THIS MORNING.

He has a new wiz-bang 3ware card. High end, top of the line. And no distro currently has drivers for it. So he went through the painful step by step setting up a box to boot from IDE while also having the card in it. He compiled the driver and munged the box to then use it for booting so he could then pull the IDE out of the picture. He had everything tuned and running nicely.

And BANG!

Security update from Suse and he forgot to mark the kernel as untouchable.

Reboots the box, fails to see his boot disk.

DOA.

He asked me if I would be willing to swap my previous generation 3ware card. Not a chance. I offered him an 9 year old EISA DAC960 SCSI controller. He didn't take it.
Post #178,314
by daemon
10/7/04 6:20:06 PM
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New Re: What the hell is that supposed to mean?
discuss that over beers in july :)
regards,
bill
     which distro should I use - (daemon) - (91) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:05:06 PM EDT
         Debian, duh :-) -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:06:33 PM EDT
             No Mandrake Susie? -NT - (daemon) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:13:50 PM EDT
                 I used to use Mandrake. - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:21:59 PM EDT
                     Ill try both -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:52:35 PM EDT
         128k? Really? Wow. -NT - (drewk) - (5) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:08:11 PM EDT
             Time for a RAM disk! -NT - (admin) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:09:12 PM EDT
             K M wtf difference :-) -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:12:08 PM EDT
             He's sorry he doesn't have 768 GB like Joe. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:12:11 PM EDT
                 You have an entirely too comprehensive... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:13:05 PM EDT
                     Some things stick in my head, lots and lots doesn't. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:14:37 PM EDT
         Ummm, my standard answer. - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:26:10 PM EDT
         That was a doofus question... - (hnick) - (12) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:41:55 PM EDT
             Are you saying that Debian is a religion? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (11) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:49:38 PM EDT
                 'round here it is... -NT - (hnick) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:54:14 PM EDT
                 Re: Are you saying that Debian is a religion? - (daemon) - (6) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:28:36 PM EDT
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:36:34 PM EDT
                     That's a good summary of the state of proprietary software - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:59:26 PM EDT
                         hmm I thought debian was an operating system :-) -NT - (daemon) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:01:24 PM EDT
                             No, it is more than an OS. - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:07:15 PM EDT
                                 Bullshit -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:58 PM EDT
                                     Okay, another... - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:29:51 PM EDT
                 Yes, I would. I believe it is. - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:05:34 PM EDT
                     I barf in your fans -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:45 PM EDT
                         Take a minute - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:28:36 PM EDT
         SuSE - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:12:17 PM EDT
             Trevor? thats fsckin out then -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:38 PM EDT
             What are you a Troll? (new thread) - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:20:34 PM EDT
             Well, I'll give you partial credit - (folkert) - (8) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:26:23 PM EDT
                 To infinity and beyond! - (deSitter) - (7) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:35:03 PM EDT
                     Quaint. But fetid in taste. -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:40:32 PM EDT
                     You know nothing but still mock it? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:20:23 PM EDT
                         never stopped anyone before :-) -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:21:35 PM EDT
                         Debbiean I knew - I don't watch cartoons - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:25:07 PM EDT
                             Care to define "success"? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:38:57 PM EDT
                                 Yes - dollars, pervasiveness, and trust - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 03:56:57 AM EDT
                                     Well in the server category... - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:09:24 AM EDT
             You've got a nerve. (new thread) - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:59:31 AM EDT
             Actually I agree - (drewk) - (8) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:40:12 AM EDT
                 Not to mention - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:45:46 AM EDT
                     Thanks, my google-fu was lacking -NT - (drewk) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:56:14 AM EDT
                 Stupidity is boundless -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:50:57 AM EDT
                 Best Version Ever - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:52:30 AM EDT
                 Have you tried buying one of those by name? - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:45:26 AM EDT
                     Have you ever tried to buy Woody? - (drewk) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:01:01 AM EDT
                         I get offers to buy Woody in my Inbox every day... :/ -NT - (FuManChu) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:09:43 AM EDT
                         Point: Don't use or complain about the Woody name. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:22:48 AM EDT
         I'll take a contrarian view - (broomberg) - (44) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:50:41 PM EDT
             why not recompile the kernel? - (daemon) - (43) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:05:00 PM EDT
                 Nothing to do with sacrosanct - (broomberg) - (42) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:12:27 PM EDT
                     Re: Nothing to do with sacrosanct - (daemon) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:20:16 PM EDT
                         What the hell is that supposed to mean? - (broomberg) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:37:52 PM EDT
                             Re: What the hell is that supposed to mean? - (daemon) - Oct. 7, 2004, 06:20:06 PM EDT
                     absurd - (deSitter) - (38) - Oct. 7, 2004, 03:26:59 AM EDT
                         Ahh, so maybe I get to learn something - (broomberg) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:08:24 AM EDT
                             Ok, sorry out of line to say "absurd" - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:24:14 AM EDT
                                 You mean that he's the ONLY one? - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:24:34 AM EDT
                         What's the cost-benefit analysis of such an exercise? - (pwhysall) - (34) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:11:50 AM EDT
                             Re: What's the cost-benefit analysis of such an exercise? - (deSitter) - (33) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:26:43 AM EDT
                                 Feel free to answer the question. - (pwhysall) - (32) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:28:18 AM EDT
                                     It's an attitude - (deSitter) - (31) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:36:08 AM EDT
                                         Answer the question. -NT - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:38:42 AM EDT
                                         As the duly appointed business "Linux" person - (broomberg) - (29) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:05:41 AM EDT
                                             Re: As the duly appointed business "Linux" person - (deSitter) - (28) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:23:53 AM EDT
                                                 Stale libs? - (pwhysall) - (27) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:24:43 AM EDT
                                                     Be more specific - (deSitter) - (26) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:27:08 AM EDT
                                                         Scenario: You update using YaST. - (pwhysall) - (25) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:31:16 AM EDT
                                                             ? SuSE is RPM based - (deSitter) - (24) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:08:56 AM EDT
                                                                 Answer the question. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:14:28 AM EDT
                                                                 Not what he is asking. - (folkert) - (22) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:14:33 AM EDT
                                                                     Re: Not what he is asking. - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:36:02 AM EDT
                                                                         You are missing the POINT! - (folkert) - (20) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:57:08 AM EDT
                                                                             So? - (deSitter) - (19) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:05:43 PM EDT
                                                                                 Unless I'm missing something...... - (n3jja) - (18) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:29:44 PM EDT
                                                                                     Re: Unless I'm missing something...... - (daemon) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:26:21 PM EDT
                                                                                         Did you read - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:55:30 AM EDT
                                                                                     Re: Unless I'm missing something...... - (deSitter) - (15) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:47:15 PM EDT
                                                                                         Re Re Wind - (pwhysall) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2004, 03:23:23 AM EDT
                                                                                             Ok, that's nice - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2004, 06:11:54 AM EDT
                                                                                                 Good luck with that. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 07:37:50 AM EDT
                                                                                                     Can I alter it for RPM? -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 08:26:30 AM EDT
                                                                                                         I dunno. Can you? - (pwhysall) - Oct. 8, 2004, 08:47:45 AM EDT
                                                                                         BTW.... - (folkert) - (6) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:28:44 AM EDT
                                                                                             Always wondered: is the "L" silent as in "folk"? Guessing no -NT - (FuManChu) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 11:23:38 AM EDT
                                                                                                 As in: - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 12:12:27 PM EDT
                                                                                             Re: BTW.... - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2004, 12:54:31 PM EDT
                                                                                                 His so pissy what? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 02:47:32 PM EDT
                                                                                                     HEY!! - (n3jja) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 07:00:06 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Yeah, you pasty skinned photon trap! -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2004, 11:28:06 PM EDT
                                                                                         Okay then... another thing - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:37:29 AM EDT
                                                                                             Re: Okay then... another thing - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:38:40 AM EDT
                                                                                                 Eaxctly the point I was trying to make. - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:49:01 AM EDT

Me are missing the hint.
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