You know nothing but still mock it?

Post #178,109 by ben_tilly 10/6/04 9:20:23 PM Reply	You know nothing but still mock it? Why should anyone else listen to your opinion? FYI the "toy story" trivia is one of the first things that people learn about Debian. The reason for it is that an early maintainer was Bruce Perens, who was working at Pixar (which did Toy Story). So he used that for the names. Everyone else liked them, and the theme has been kept up. Where does the name "Debian" come from? Well the project was started by Debra and Ian Murdock, hence deb-ian. This kind of whimsical naming is what you have to expect from volunteers. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #178,110 by daemon 10/6/04 9:21:35 PM Reply	never stopped anyone before :-)
Post #178,112 by deSitter 10/6/04 9:25:07 PM Reply	Debbiean I knew - I don't watch cartoons The personal truth is I don't give a fig about what Linux you run. The sad truth is, OSX has rendered Linux meaningless on the desktop, so the only target left is vendor UNIX, and it will probably fail there as well because of lack of tight software/hardware integration. Linux will have failed, not because it is inferior, but because many of its supporters are religious loons. -drl
Post #178,113 by ben_tilly 10/6/04 9:38:57 PM Reply	Care to define "success"? It looks to me like it is definitely succeeding by most reasonable measures. Its percentage of total server sales (measured in units or dollars) continues to show double-digit growth. That doesn't count the embedded market (where Linux is huge), the supercomputer market (where Linux dominates some niches) or the desktop market (where Linux is miniscule, but has some success stories). I don't know if Linux will ever succeed on the desktop. But in the other three it has established itself and hasn't topped out yet. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #178,144 by deSitter 10/7/04 3:56:57 AM Reply	Yes - dollars, pervasiveness, and trust At least that works in IT. Windows has dollars and pervasiveness but no trust. -drl
Post #178,202 by ben_tilly 10/7/04 11:09:24 AM Reply	Well in the server category... Over 20% of money spent on servers are on machines that come installed with Linux. And Linux still shows double-digit growth year on year. By units it does even better. It would be higher still if you counted desktop machines purchased that then had Linux installed and wound up as servers. So Linux represents real dollars. At that volume it will gain pervasiveness. I don't see signs of a big trust problem with Linux. What evidence do you have that Linux is about to fail? Wondering, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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