Post #178,084
10/6/04 8:12:17 PM
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SuSE
Debian is for effete snobs who are too lazy to remove superfluous modules and tune for their specific processor.
Debian has names like "Woody", "Potato", "Splinter", "Waterbug", and "Trevor". Like American cars. SuSE has names like 6.1, 6.2, 7.1, 7.2 etc. like German ones.
-drl
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Post #178,085
10/6/04 8:17:38 PM
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Trevor? thats fsckin out then
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Post #178,089
10/6/04 8:20:34 PM
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What are you a Troll? (new thread)
Created as new thread #178088 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=178088|What are you a Troll?]
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,092
10/6/04 8:26:23 PM
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Well, I'll give you partial credit
When you get it right.
Slink == Character in Toy Story (Debian v2.1) Potato == Character in Toy Story (Debian v2.2) Woody == Character in Toy Story (Debian v3.0) Sarge == Character in Toy Story (Debian v3.1 (to be released, in RC form now)) Etch == Character in Toy story (Sarge+1 release dunno if it'll be 3.2 or 4.0)
It is called a theme, get on with your life Ross.
Take you putrescent attitude and zip it.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,097
10/6/04 8:35:03 PM
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To infinity and beyond!
I didn't know it was themed on "Toy Story". Isn't that special!
I suppose they could have named them "Kirby", "Sarge", "LT", "Doc", and "Little John" - characters from "Combat!". Or "Greenjeans", "Orville", "Scooptoot", "Banana Man", and "Kangaroo". Or even "Thurston", "Professor", "Skipper", "MaryAnn", and "LittleBuddy". Stay tuned from "Ginger"!
-drl
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Post #178,099
10/6/04 8:40:32 PM
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Quaint. But fetid in taste.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,109
10/6/04 9:20:23 PM
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You know nothing but still mock it?
Why should anyone else listen to your opinion?
FYI the "toy story" trivia is one of the first things that people learn about Debian. The reason for it is that an early maintainer was Bruce Perens, who was working at Pixar (which did Toy Story). So he used that for the names. Everyone else liked them, and the theme has been kept up.
Where does the name "Debian" come from? Well the project was started by Debra and Ian Murdock, hence deb-ian.
This kind of whimsical naming is what you have to expect from volunteers.
Cheers, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,110
10/6/04 9:21:35 PM
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never stopped anyone before :-)
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Post #178,112
10/6/04 9:25:07 PM
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Debbiean I knew - I don't watch cartoons
The personal truth is I don't give a fig about what Linux you run. The sad truth is, OSX has rendered Linux meaningless on the desktop, so the only target left is vendor UNIX, and it will probably fail there as well because of lack of tight software/hardware integration.
Linux will have failed, not because it is inferior, but because many of its supporters are religious loons.
-drl
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Post #178,113
10/6/04 9:38:57 PM
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Care to define "success"?
It looks to me like it is definitely succeeding by most reasonable measures. Its percentage of total server sales (measured in units or dollars) continues to show double-digit growth. That doesn't count the embedded market (where Linux is huge), the supercomputer market (where Linux dominates some niches) or the desktop market (where Linux is miniscule, but has some success stories).
I don't know if Linux will ever succeed on the desktop. But in the other three it has established itself and hasn't topped out yet.
Cheers, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,144
10/7/04 3:56:57 AM
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Yes - dollars, pervasiveness, and trust
At least that works in IT.
Windows has dollars and pervasiveness but no trust.
-drl
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Post #178,202
10/7/04 11:09:24 AM
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Well in the server category...
Over 20% of money spent on servers are on machines that come installed with Linux. And Linux still shows double-digit growth year on year. By units it does even better. It would be higher still if you counted desktop machines purchased that then had Linux installed and wound up as servers.
So Linux represents real dollars. At that volume it will gain pervasiveness. I don't see signs of a big trust problem with Linux.
What evidence do you have that Linux is about to fail?
Wondering, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,135
10/7/04 1:59:31 AM
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You've got a nerve. (new thread)
Created as new thread #178134 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=178134|You've got a nerve.]
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Post #178,166
10/7/04 8:40:12 AM
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Actually I agree
Having themed names for successive releases is childish and prevents the software from being taken seriously in the business world.
That's like expecting people to spend real money on something called "Chicago" or "Cairo"; or "Willammette", "Nocona", "Tumwater", "Lindenhurst" or "Dobson"; or "Banias", "LaGrande", "Tanglewood", "Tulsa" or "Vanderpool".
Oh wait, they do that.
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Post #178,169
10/7/04 8:45:46 AM
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Not to mention
Deschutes, Klamath, Coppermine, Katmai, Longhorn, Tacoma, Blackcomb, Dothan, Tukwila, Mendocino...
Ah, sod it.
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(SFW)
Peter [link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
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Post #178,174
10/7/04 8:56:14 AM
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Thanks, my google-fu was lacking
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Post #178,171
10/7/04 8:50:57 AM
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Stupidity is boundless
-drl
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Post #178,172
10/7/04 8:52:30 AM
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Best Version Ever
...of Anything.
Pan 0.10.0.92 "Andrew Orlowski Can Kiss My Ass"
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Post #178,199
10/7/04 10:45:26 AM
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Have you tried buying one of those by name?
Internal project names and brand names are two different, albeit related, things.
Only those yearning to be considered part of the cognoscenti continue to use project names after the brand name is made public.
Alex
"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer
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Post #178,201
10/7/04 11:01:01 AM
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Have you ever tried to buy Woody?
Nope. Because it's not sold that way. The people selling Debian call it things like Xandros 2.5 and Linspire 4.5. What's your point?
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Post #178,203
10/7/04 11:09:43 AM
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I get offers to buy Woody in my Inbox every day... :/
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Post #178,205
10/7/04 11:22:48 AM
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Point: Don't use or complain about the Woody name.
Alex
"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer
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