Re: Are you saying that Debian is a religion?

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Post #178,074 by daemon 10/6/04 7:28:36 PM Reply	Re: Are you saying that Debian is a religion? why not? in the old days it was mac/dos while the real computer geeks laughed and spoke nix, now all the gnueeks are trading insults with the gnurds, stallman has turned into an frothing anklebiter and the nix speakers are still laughing in their sleeves. An OS is something that hosts a program. A program is something driven by nescessity, designed by committee, written by the lowest cost developers money can buy under deadline and marketed by stooges that have no idea how it actually works. This thing is handed to one of us who must bless all involved roundly and make the dam thing work reasonably consistantly. If that doest have the common denominators of religion, faith coupled with a beleif in magic nothing does. regards, daemon
Post #178,076 by drewk 10/6/04 7:36:34 PM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #178075 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=178075\|ICLRPD] === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #178,078 by ben_tilly 10/6/04 7:59:26 PM Reply	That's a good summary of the state of proprietary software You'll note that Debian is not proprietary software, and doesn't contain a lot of proprietary software in it. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #178,080 by daemon 10/6/04 8:01:24 PM Reply	hmm I thought debian was an operating system :-)
Post #178,082 by folkert 10/6/04 8:07:15 PM Reply	No, it is more than an OS. It is an OS with alot of Supporting packages availble to it, because of it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source] Here is an example: [link\|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/\|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
Post #178,087 by deSitter 10/6/04 8:17:58 PM Reply	Bullshit -drl
Post #178,094 by folkert 10/6/04 8:29:51 PM Reply	Okay, another... Bit of polluted attitude. Take it elsewhere. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source] Here is an example: [link\|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/\|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]

which distro should I use - (daemon) - (91) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:05:06 PM EDT

Debian, duh :-) -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:06:33 PM EDT

No Mandrake Susie? -NT - (daemon) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:13:50 PM EDT

I used to use Mandrake. - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:21:59 PM EDT

Ill try both -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:52:35 PM EDT

128k? Really? Wow. -NT - (drewk) - (5) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:08:11 PM EDT

Time for a RAM disk! -NT - (admin) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:09:12 PM EDT

K M wtf difference :-) -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:12:08 PM EDT

He's sorry he doesn't have 768 GB like Joe. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:12:11 PM EDT

You have an entirely too comprehensive... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:13:05 PM EDT

Some things stick in my head, lots and lots doesn't. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:14:37 PM EDT

Ummm, my standard answer. - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:26:10 PM EDT

That was a doofus question... - (hnick) - (12) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:41:55 PM EDT

Are you saying that Debian is a religion? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (11) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:49:38 PM EDT

'round here it is... -NT - (hnick) - Oct. 6, 2004, 06:54:14 PM EDT

Re: Are you saying that Debian is a religion? - (daemon) - (6) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:28:36 PM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:36:34 PM EDT

That's a good summary of the state of proprietary software - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 6, 2004, 07:59:26 PM EDT

hmm I thought debian was an operating system :-) -NT - (daemon) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:01:24 PM EDT

No, it is more than an OS. - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:07:15 PM EDT

Bullshit -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:58 PM EDT

Okay, another... - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:29:51 PM EDT

Yes, I would. I believe it is. - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:05:34 PM EDT

I barf in your fans -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:45 PM EDT

Take a minute - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:28:36 PM EDT

SuSE - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:12:17 PM EDT

Trevor? thats fsckin out then -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:17:38 PM EDT

What are you a Troll? (new thread) - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:20:34 PM EDT

Well, I'll give you partial credit - (folkert) - (8) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:26:23 PM EDT

To infinity and beyond! - (deSitter) - (7) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:35:03 PM EDT

Quaint. But fetid in taste. -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 6, 2004, 08:40:32 PM EDT

You know nothing but still mock it? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:20:23 PM EDT

never stopped anyone before :-) -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:21:35 PM EDT

Debbiean I knew - I don't watch cartoons - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:25:07 PM EDT

Care to define "success"? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:38:57 PM EDT

Yes - dollars, pervasiveness, and trust - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 03:56:57 AM EDT

Well in the server category... - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:09:24 AM EDT

You've got a nerve. (new thread) - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 01:59:31 AM EDT

Actually I agree - (drewk) - (8) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:40:12 AM EDT

Not to mention - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:45:46 AM EDT

Thanks, my google-fu was lacking -NT - (drewk) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:56:14 AM EDT

Stupidity is boundless -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:50:57 AM EDT

Best Version Ever - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:52:30 AM EDT

Have you tried buying one of those by name? - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:45:26 AM EDT

Have you ever tried to buy Woody? - (drewk) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:01:01 AM EDT

I get offers to buy Woody in my Inbox every day... :/ -NT - (FuManChu) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:09:43 AM EDT

Point: Don't use or complain about the Woody name. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:22:48 AM EDT

I'll take a contrarian view - (broomberg) - (44) - Oct. 6, 2004, 09:50:41 PM EDT

why not recompile the kernel? - (daemon) - (43) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:05:00 PM EDT

Nothing to do with sacrosanct - (broomberg) - (42) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:12:27 PM EDT

Re: Nothing to do with sacrosanct - (daemon) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:20:16 PM EDT

What the hell is that supposed to mean? - (broomberg) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2004, 10:37:52 PM EDT

Re: What the hell is that supposed to mean? - (daemon) - Oct. 7, 2004, 06:20:06 PM EDT

absurd - (deSitter) - (38) - Oct. 7, 2004, 03:26:59 AM EDT

Ahh, so maybe I get to learn something - (broomberg) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:08:24 AM EDT

Ok, sorry out of line to say "absurd" - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:24:14 AM EDT

You mean that he's the ONLY one? - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2004, 11:24:34 AM EDT

What's the cost-benefit analysis of such an exercise? - (pwhysall) - (34) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:11:50 AM EDT

Re: What's the cost-benefit analysis of such an exercise? - (deSitter) - (33) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:26:43 AM EDT

Feel free to answer the question. - (pwhysall) - (32) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:28:18 AM EDT

It's an attitude - (deSitter) - (31) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:36:08 AM EDT

Answer the question. -NT - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 08:38:42 AM EDT

As the duly appointed business "Linux" person - (broomberg) - (29) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:05:41 AM EDT

Re: As the duly appointed business "Linux" person - (deSitter) - (28) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:23:53 AM EDT

Stale libs? - (pwhysall) - (27) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:24:43 AM EDT

Be more specific - (deSitter) - (26) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:27:08 AM EDT

Scenario: You update using YaST. - (pwhysall) - (25) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:31:16 AM EDT

? SuSE is RPM based - (deSitter) - (24) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:08:56 AM EDT

Answer the question. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:14:28 AM EDT

Not what he is asking. - (folkert) - (22) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:14:33 AM EDT

Re: Not what he is asking. - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:36:02 AM EDT

You are missing the POINT! - (folkert) - (20) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:57:08 AM EDT

So? - (deSitter) - (19) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:05:43 PM EDT

Unless I'm missing something...... - (n3jja) - (18) - Oct. 7, 2004, 09:29:44 PM EDT

Re: Unless I'm missing something...... - (daemon) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:26:21 PM EDT

Did you read - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:55:30 AM EDT

Re: Unless I'm missing something...... - (deSitter) - (15) - Oct. 7, 2004, 10:47:15 PM EDT

Re Re Wind - (pwhysall) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2004, 03:23:23 AM EDT

Ok, that's nice - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2004, 06:11:54 AM EDT

Good luck with that. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 07:37:50 AM EDT

Can I alter it for RPM? -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 08:26:30 AM EDT

I dunno. Can you? - (pwhysall) - Oct. 8, 2004, 08:47:45 AM EDT

BTW.... - (folkert) - (6) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:28:44 AM EDT

Always wondered: is the "L" silent as in "folk"? Guessing no -NT - (FuManChu) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 11:23:38 AM EDT

As in: - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 12:12:27 PM EDT

Re: BTW.... - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2004, 12:54:31 PM EDT

His so pissy what? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 02:47:32 PM EDT

HEY!! - (n3jja) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 07:00:06 PM EDT

Yeah, you pasty skinned photon trap! -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2004, 11:28:06 PM EDT

Okay then... another thing - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:37:29 AM EDT

Re: Okay then... another thing - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:38:40 AM EDT

Eaxctly the point I was trying to make. - (folkert) - Oct. 8, 2004, 09:49:01 AM EDT

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