Post #178,069
10/6/04 6:49:38 PM
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Are you saying that Debian is a religion?
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,073
10/6/04 6:54:14 PM
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'round here it is...
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Post #178,074
10/6/04 7:28:36 PM
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Re: Are you saying that Debian is a religion?
why not? in the old days it was mac/dos while the real computer geeks laughed and spoke nix, now all the gnueeks are trading insults with the gnurds, stallman has turned into an frothing anklebiter and the nix speakers are still laughing in their sleeves. An OS is something that hosts a program. A program is something driven by nescessity, designed by committee, written by the lowest cost developers money can buy under deadline and marketed by stooges that have no idea how it actually works. This thing is handed to one of us who must bless all involved roundly and make the dam thing work reasonably consistantly. If that doest have the common denominators of religion, faith coupled with a beleif in magic nothing does.
regards,
daemon
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Post #178,076
10/6/04 7:36:34 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #178075 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=178075|ICLRPD]
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #178,078
10/6/04 7:59:26 PM
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That's a good summary of the state of proprietary software
You'll note that Debian is not proprietary software, and doesn't contain a lot of proprietary software in it.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #178,080
10/6/04 8:01:24 PM
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hmm I thought debian was an operating system :-)
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Post #178,082
10/6/04 8:07:15 PM
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No, it is more than an OS.
It is an OS with alot of Supporting packages availble to it, because of it.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,087
10/6/04 8:17:58 PM
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Bullshit
-drl
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Post #178,094
10/6/04 8:29:51 PM
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Okay, another...
Bit of polluted attitude.
Take it elsewhere.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,081
10/6/04 8:05:34 PM
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Yes, I would. I believe it is.
It is as close to a religion as you can get.
With Bastions of Fiefdom, Everybody believing in the core set of values, bickering about interpretation, arguing about prose, doing deeds first without asking if it would be for the better good... among other things.
In general, Debian *IS* a Church having a Bazaar. And what a WILD Bazaar it is. There is also the "One" (the DPL) and the Gatekeeper(s) (Debian FTPmasters), The one that does the watching (Debian Secretary), and the ones that school the unclean... (Debian Mentors), which then allow them to become Dicipiles (Debian Developers). As well as those that Help move the Church along certain lines as Bishops (Debian Specialist Team Leaders; Debian X, Debian Kernel, etc..) and the Arch-Bishops that really pull everything together (the Debian Release Managers) for the overall good.
If that ain't close to a religion, I'd hate to see your definition.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #178,086
10/6/04 8:17:45 PM
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I barf in your fans
-drl
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Post #178,093
10/6/04 8:28:36 PM
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Take a minute
and look at yourself.
You are a rancid, decaying, bad-smelling, decomposing, disgusting corpse of what used to be someone that knew something about Linux.
Be gone with you.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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