The idea is what the feds are asking help with

Post #17,708 by boxley 11/10/01 8:10:35 PM Reply	The idea is what the feds are asking help with if the language can be identified, the recording can be shipped to a linguist for translation. The req is for identifying specific languages by machine and trigger a data point for further investigation. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #17,715 by Ashton 11/10/01 8:42:41 PM Reply	I can appreciate the utility.. But in my friend trying to teach me a little of correctly inflected Russian (and I have a good ear for, voice for 'language sounds', generally) - you'd (maybe) not believe how Many ways you can (try to) say: Tu\ufffd\ufffd grosnya kapitalistichiskaya sviny\ufffd! You filthy capitalist swine! I know that the scope display of just one of these words (storage scope that is) would show the nasal, throat qualities as lo-freq. waveforms, with the sibillants as hi-freq modulation at start.. but - Now add-in the mumblers, the couth-less, the local acc\ufffdnts.. Perhaps Ben's suggestions below - can tell you how near we might be. I'd opine that: if voice-recog. is up to querying a truly International glossary of sounds VS a valid sample of a message of more than a few words: your accuracy would reflect the state of the (Office) art. I do recall that (couple years ago I think) there were some algorithms better suited for one-shot guesstimates / others for (the 'training' approach). The latter produced much higher overall accuracy (99% for deliberate slow speech?). You can bet the Feds have had a chat with IBM and Kurtzweill (?) already. Can also bet - further improvement will Not come from a Billy, "writing neat tight C+ code"* (the pompous, arrogant snivelling Lying bastard). You can't code without a productive algorithm (right?) * yeah the little prick actually Said that was "his hobby!" - got a link somewhere. Luck, A.
Post #17,721 by boxley 11/10/01 10:15:22 PM Reply	how I would approach the problem have a US groupie walk thru the bazaar in Quetta, Kabul, Medina with an open mike and record all the sounds. run software that will turn it into waves match these files against crowd noise in other countries. The aggregate will define those slop mouths, mumblers non native language speakers etc and hopefully an common identifier. If the general theory sounds interesting I will be putting in a bid. They have approached the usual suspects for this kind of thing but they have failed. It is now being presented to the garage inventors, the tinkeres, the IWETHEYers. If the one page concept will get flagged I will need a three page then the next step is a detailed outline followed by a contract for work. This is something we as a group could share in although not all might be in favor of that particular ability to pick out a language like that. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"

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