Yes, I have already done the request for the router tween

his ISP and the machine in question.

I have already gotten British Telecom's logs...

And they have asked me to only review these logs, not to publish them.

I see the entire conversation through the final router at btopen.

I see the requests to *Z*, I also see requests from St. Loius to Port 3389 and the use of PPTP (port 1723) for the data channel.

Remote Desktop was used from St Louis to the Machine Address in Question.

BTW, BTopen said they will monitor the situation and see what happens.

The request to Worldcom, said it will take a couple of days. But they will get it to me.

And the route to and from excluding the ending addresses:

 #2 ATM.VVR26.MSP1.DSL.ALTER.NET\n #3 344.at-5-0-0.CL2.DET5.ALTER.NET\n #4 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.CHI4.ALTER.NET\n #5 0.so-0-2-0.TL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET\n #6 0.so-5-0-0.CL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET\n #7 POS7-0.GW4.IAD8.ALTER.NET\n #8 bt2-gw.customer.alter.net\n #9 t2c1-ge6-2.us-ash.eu.bt.net\n#10 t2c1-p4-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net\n#11 t2c2-ge6-1.uk-eal.eu.bt.net\n#12 166-49-168-34.eu.bt.net\n#13 core1-pos15-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net\n#14 interconnect5-pos7-0.ealing.fixed.bt.net\n#15 inh3cs01-455.imsnet3.btopenworld.com\n#16 inh3br01-570.imsnet3.btopenworld.com\n#17 host213-1-119-39.imsnet3.btopenworld.com

Post #176,327 by folkert 9/24/04 8:56:08 PM 9/24/04 9:24:12 PM Reply	Yes, I have already done the request for the router tween his ISP and the machine in question. I have already gotten British Telecom's logs... And they have asked me to only review these logs, not to publish them. I see the entire conversation through the final router at btopen. I see the requests to Z, I also see requests from St. Loius to Port 3389 and the use of PPTP (port 1723) for the data channel. Remote Desktop was used from St Louis to the Machine Address in Question. BTW, BTopen said they will monitor the situation and see what happens. The request to Worldcom, said it will take a couple of days. But they will get it to me. And the route to and from excluding the ending addresses: #2 ATM.VVR26.MSP1.DSL.ALTER.NET\n #3 344.at-5-0-0.CL2.DET5.ALTER.NET\n #4 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.CHI4.ALTER.NET\n #5 0.so-0-2-0.TL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET\n #6 0.so-5-0-0.CL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET\n #7 POS7-0.GW4.IAD8.ALTER.NET\n #8 bt2-gw.customer.alter.net\n #9 t2c1-ge6-2.us-ash.eu.bt.net\n#10 t2c1-p4-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net\n#11 t2c2-ge6-1.uk-eal.eu.bt.net\n#12 166-49-168-34.eu.bt.net\n#13 core1-pos15-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net\n#14 interconnect5-pos7-0.ealing.fixed.bt.net\n#15 inh3cs01-455.imsnet3.btopenworld.com\n#16 inh3br01-570.imsnet3.btopenworld.com\n#17 host213-1-119-39.imsnet3.btopenworld.com -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source] Here is an example: [link\|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/\|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows] Edited by folkert Sept. 24, 2004, 09:24:12 PM EDT Yes, I have already done the request for the router tween his ISP and the machine in question. I have already gotten British Telecom's logs... And they have asked me to only review these logs, not to publish them. I see the entire conversation through the final router at btopen. I see the requests to Z, I also see requests from St. Loius to Port 3389 and the use of PPTP (port 1723) for the data channel. Remote Desktop was used from St Louis to the Machine Address in Question. BTW, BTopen said they will monitor the situation and see what happens. The request to Worldcom, said it will take a couple of days. But they will get it to me. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source] Here is an example: [link\|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/\|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows] Collapse All History
Post #176,350 by Nightowl 9/24/04 10:09:05 PM Reply	Thanks, please keep me posted with the results I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point, but finding out it came to St. Louis makes me slightly skeptical. But I can't confront him with it on speculation, I need the concrete proof to get anywhere. Thanks. Brenda "It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Post #176,378 by folkert 9/25/04 1:20:01 AM Reply	You know... It really doesn't matter. The fact that it happened or not is of no concern anymore. I have shelved any concern for his well being. Unless you REALLY REALLY want to pursue this... Please send an e-mail to the e-mail address in the signature to request info. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source] Here is an example: [link\|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/\|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
Post #176,393 by bepatient 9/25/04 6:58:52 AM Reply	Thank you. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #176,410 by Nightowl 9/25/04 1:00:39 PM Reply	Will do Thanks Greg. Brenda "It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).

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