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Yup. No generic substitute for that.
Post #176,254
by
FuManChu
9/24/04 4:00:08 PM
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Yup. No generic substitute for that.
Lines of code in a Java method ...
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bluke
)
- (73)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 10:23:14 AM EDT
I don't know of studies of this with OO languages
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ben_tilly
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- (64)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 10:48:22 AM EDT
I remember that when I read Code Complete ...
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bluke
)
- (60)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 10:59:17 AM EDT
Hence my speculation about how and why to change that for OO
-NT
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ben_tilly
)
- (59)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 11:30:34 AM EDT
In OO code many of the decision points ...
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bluke
)
- (58)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 11:36:37 AM EDT
Quibble
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ben_tilly
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- (57)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 08:04:26 PM EDT
Okay, thought it was just me
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drewk
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- (46)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 08:59:44 PM EDT
Not really missing anything.
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FuManChu
)
- (1)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 09:34:24 PM EDT
VMT in C++
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Arkadiy
)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 09:56:51 AM EDT
The superclass decides nothing
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ben_tilly
)
- (43)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 09:55:16 PM EDT
Once again, it's the terminology
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drewk
)
- (40)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 10:20:23 PM EDT
That's not multiple inheritance
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ben_tilly
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- Sept. 23, 2004, 12:05:47 AM EDT
Ramble ramble ramble
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FuManChu
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- Sept. 23, 2004, 02:46:35 AM EDT
Yes and No
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bluke
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- (37)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 03:57:24 AM EDT
I mis-read Ben
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drewk
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- (36)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 10:07:50 AM EDT
You misunderstand interfaces and factories ...
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bluke
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- (2)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 11:20:06 AM EDT
Drew is right.
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FuManChu
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- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 12:38:44 PM EDT
My point was
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bluke
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- Sept. 23, 2004, 05:00:13 PM EDT
I'm actually on the fence
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ben_tilly
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- (32)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 10:55:24 AM EDT
That is with implementation inheritance
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bluke
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- (2)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 11:00:41 AM EDT
That is both with interface and implementation inheritance
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ben_tilly
)
- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 11:08:29 AM EDT
With interfaces it is less of a concern
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bluke
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- Sept. 23, 2004, 11:17:39 AM EDT
Hadn't heard of LSP
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drewk
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- (28)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 12:36:16 PM EDT
Huh?
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tuberculosis
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- (27)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 01:23:55 PM EDT
Don't get all religious on me
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drewk
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- (26)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 12:30:58 AM EDT
Going to disagreed on this point
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JimWeirich
)
- (1)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 01:01:56 AM EDT
agreed
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deSitter
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- Sept. 24, 2004, 04:01:49 AM EDT
Re: Don't get all religious on me
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JimWeirich
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- (23)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 01:11:21 AM EDT
And that's the key point
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ben_tilly
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- (22)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 10:34:42 AM EDT
Someday I've got to take a class
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drewk
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- (21)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 03:18:39 PM EDT
..when I get my inheritance
-NT
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deSitter
)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 03:54:21 PM EDT
Yup. No generic substitute for that.
-NT
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FuManChu
)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 04:00:08 PM EDT
Good idea in this instance.
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admin
)
- (14)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 04:20:45 PM EDT
I object; it's part of a general pattern
-NT
- (
FuManChu
)
- (13)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 05:44:34 PM EDT
Ah, but I have a cunning strategy...
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admin
)
- (12)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:17:48 PM EDT
Bah. Overridden.
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FuManChu
)
- (1)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:26:44 PM EDT
Overloaded your capacity for understanding, eh?
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admin
)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:31:13 PM EDT
Ashton, is that you?
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Another Scott
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- (7)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:29:07 PM EDT
Better than the treasurer...
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admin
)
- (6)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:33:02 PM EDT
He'll have to wait - I'm collecting garbage
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ben_tilly
)
- (5)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 06:59:43 PM EDT
Coincidentally, there's a fellow around here named Mark...
- (
admin
)
- (4)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 08:48:18 PM EDT
I'm sorry but that pointer is dangling
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ben_tilly
)
- (3)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 09:11:32 PM EDT
Some people have too much time on their hands...
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static
)
- (2)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 06:26:13 AM EDT
You're a real LALRf riot.
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admin
)
- (1)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 09:35:21 AM EDT
So you sed. Personally, I think it's a Perl in the Blinker.
-NT
- (
Another Scott
)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 10:12:54 AM EDT
Uuuuuhh...
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jb4
)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 07:27:18 PM EDT
The cun.. er, clever linguist suffers Code 715
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Ashton
)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 03:08:51 AM EDT
Or an interface
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tuberculosis
)
- (2)
- Sept. 24, 2004, 10:56:23 PM EDT
Yes, and that's what we do
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drewk
)
- (1)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 10:04:33 PM EDT
Language doesn't need to support abstract class
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tuberculosis
)
- Sept. 25, 2004, 11:47:26 PM EDT
That was not what I meant
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bluke
)
- Sept. 26, 2004, 02:30:26 AM EDT
It's a decision, but it's abstracted out
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Arkadiy
)
- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 10:11:04 AM EDT
Yes, but I don't care how it works
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bluke
)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 10:39:02 AM EDT
DP's are compressed in OO
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tuberculosis
)
- (6)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 01:09:43 PM EDT
Polymorphism relies on a lie
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tablizer
)
- (5)
- Oct. 7, 2004, 11:07:36 PM EDT
Re: Polymorphism relies on a lie
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admin
)
- (2)
- Oct. 7, 2004, 11:23:58 PM EDT
Mostly, it is
- (
tablizer
)
- (1)
- Oct. 13, 2004, 01:10:40 PM EDT
To the naive programmer, perhaps.
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admin
)
- Oct. 13, 2004, 01:57:31 PM EDT
Something tells me you'd like prototype OO as a midground
-NT
- (
FuManChu
)
- (1)
- Oct. 8, 2004, 01:56:34 AM EDT
*No-one* can eat that much crow
-NT
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pwhysall
)
- Oct. 8, 2004, 01:57:41 AM EDT
We had a big fight over case-vs-poly a few years ago
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- (2)
- Sept. 27, 2004, 11:34:24 PM EDT
Charley Rock Tree
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ChrisR
)
- (1)
- Sept. 27, 2004, 11:41:52 PM EDT
Ha! :-)
-NT
- (
Another Scott
)
- Sept. 27, 2004, 11:45:00 PM EDT
Re: I don't know of studies of this with OO languages
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deSitter
)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 02:44:15 PM EDT
Interesting comment by Ron Jeffries
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bluke
)
- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 08:41:04 AM EDT
Re: Interesting comment by Ron Jeffries
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deSitter
)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 09:36:49 AM EDT
to minimize the damage that these kind of developers wreak
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Arkadiy
)
- (1)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 01:04:29 PM EDT
Unfortunately I can't
- (
bluke
)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 01:17:18 PM EDT
4.
-NT
- (
FuManChu
)
- (2)
- Sept. 22, 2004, 02:30:58 PM EDT
In smalltalk that might be realistic
- (
bluke
)
- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 04:02:32 AM EDT
That was my point. Glad someone got the joke :)
-NT
- (
FuManChu
)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 12:40:30 PM EDT
1/2 page
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tuberculosis
)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 01:18:44 PM EDT
Re: Lines of code in a Java method ...
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dshellman
)
- (1)
- Sept. 23, 2004, 01:43:04 PM EDT
Agree
- (
bluke
)
- Sept. 26, 2004, 02:32:18 AM EDT
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