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Mme. Blavatsky was among the earliest to attempt to bring to the West, some sense of ancient Eastern thought - this at a time when 'parlor tricks' and 'mediums' were all the rage. (That is - other than individual exchanges). She attempted to speak reasonably and deliberately about.. the invisible (whatever is or isn't there) - from as much of 'the scientific method' as might be possible, given that peer review is hardly posssible - of an individual experience (!) A healthy skepticism would have to suffice.

I don't know the reasoning for attributing the Good/Evil dichotomy within her model - but again, one has to consider the time in the US, the public mood - and what terms she thought might be close-enough metaphors to work with.

Anyway.. the Theosophical Society has passed the century mark. But as always - one can go nearer the source of the ideas presented, then as now. Just depends on the degree and urgency of interest. East/West is just another artificial dichotomy anyway -- either 'Truth' is the only monad (or we have to then invent anti-Truth and guarantee Good and Bad Angels dancing on those metaphorical pins).

As to prayer.. it's a tacit assumption locally, that it is about 'asking for stuff' from some One. Understandable that , but also possibly - limiting of horizons to a familiar model (?)

Hell - we can't even agree on an 'economic' model for the pedestrian daily moving around of things, from one place or pocket to another - even with such fancy jargon as velocity of money and others as Strange as a Quark.

Why should we imagine a useful 'explication' of All and Everything, in words: if we can't even figure out where/whether goods+money have anything much to do with 'real life'?

Enjoy the Safari,


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The problem with Blavatsky is that not only did she bring some Eastern though into the West but she also brought some common Indian practice. Specifically fraud and deception, practices that are all to ingrained as part of Indian religious practice.

Not to blame India alone in this, Blavatsky was also associated with the Spiritualism movement, and she copied many of her deceptions from that.

Jay
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Maybe the over-simplifications (Good/Evil and such) she deemed about all the traffic would bear ~ the last '01 in America, but that doesn't excuse the er 'Indian culture' artifacts.

I suspect that those whose 'search' ended with Mme. B. weren't looking for much.. except party conversation.

BTW - any honest 'Sages' from thereabouts echo the same observation re the 'religious' practices tacked-on to the base ideas, and the omnipresent stealing. (which is hardly anything to do with any Important stuff - just homo-sap being normal)

Seen One Corp-Religion on any compass point: seen 'em -


Ashton

PS - Sometimes the $ part is.. mainly about supporting the 'project'. (Or even about, demonstrating our conditioned $-fascination via a brief experience of umm disdain?)

Gurdjieff (and Ouspensky) appeared here on a similar mission in '20s. There are still such schools around, but emphasis from the outset is about 'verifying' not memorizing stuff. I see those as a step some have found to be worth going through, depending.. but as Ever! caveat emptor
There Is No Free Truth\ufffd

[That's actually not far from one of Mr. G's main Points re "free" stuff]

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Expand Edited by Missing User 70 Nov. 9, 2001, 07:26:22 PM EST
     The power of prayer - (cforde) - (9)
         While the sample in this study is a bit low - (Ashton)
         Remember when the earth was flat? - (brettj) - (7)
             Theosophical Society - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Re: Theosophical Society - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                     Agreed. - (Ashton)
             Good thing this isn't in science - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                 You didn't address the question though. (: - (brettj) - (2)
                     My thought's are worth a penny? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         A physical payment for an invisible good. - (brettj)

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