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New Space is big.
Very, very big.


Peter
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New I believe the technical term for it is ... hyarge
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New Not so big
If it encounters a phenomena capable of prolonged exponential growth. Particularly over geological timescales.

Which was Von Neumann's point. Once a civilization starts expanding, its ability to expand also expands. The result is an exponential ability to consume local resources, which is more than enough to fuel an indefinite spread through the galaxy at rates which are only limited by Einstein's theories. The result at 1% of the speed of light is 10 million years to cover the galaxy - which is an eyeblink in geological time. Even at 0.1% of the speed of light we could easily reach and colonize the entire Local Cluster (that includes the Andromeda galaxy) before the Sun burns out.

It take a truly astronomical coincidence (no pun intended) to find another advanced technological society in our galaxy that has not yet arrived at Earth.

Cheers,
Ben
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New Question about that theory
Does he say that we could have reached any place in that area, or that we could have colonized all places in that area?
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New The latter
We can get exponential growth if we have unlimited resources but are limited to cubic growth by Einstein.

Since exponential growth is faster than cubic, in the limit we can theoretically completely use the resources of an expanding volume of space.

Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New I thought it was a long way to the chemists. But that's
just peanuts to space.

And so on.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
     Where the hell is everybody? - (inthane-chan) - (43)
         Easy... - (admin)
         Light is slow. Universe is big. Catastrophes happen. - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Not if you believe Von Neumann - (ben_tilly)
             Looking for radio signals is probably futile. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Re: Where the hell is everybody? - (deSitter) - (2)
             So what's your answer? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 Don't think it's a valid question at this point - (deSitter)
         Where? Well.. the Why has been done by Calvin & Hobbes - (Ashton)
         The speed of light is too low. - (static) - (24)
             It is clear the speed of light must be exceeded. - (Andrew Grygus) - (20)
                 Not a joke! -NT - (deSitter)
                 I believe and nearly always have... - (folkert) - (10)
                     The problem with C is that it's a hard limit. -NT - (pwhysall)
                     I don't think we'll ever exceed C myself. - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                         OT: What's C++ all about, then? :) -NT - (Meerkat) - (4)
                             :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Demonstrating that you can't - (ben_tilly)
                             Hmmm - (imric)
                             Simple - (admin)
                     Re: I believe and nearly always have... - (deSitter)
                     There is no evidence that they affect each other - (ben_tilly)
                     Replying to my own... to address the others. - (folkert)
                 Metaphysics wise - (ChrisR) - (7)
                     Re: Metaphysics wise - (deSitter) - (6)
                         No... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             Re: No... - (deSitter) - (2)
                                 There are materials with negative refractive indexes. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Re: There are materials with negative refractive indexes. - (deSitter)
                         Well, if we can't speed up light.... - (ChrisR) - (1)
                             That would be one of my favourite passages. :-) -NT - (static)
             It's not the getting there, it's slowing down enough to look - (drewk) - (1)
                 Right - (deSitter)
             Re: The speed of light is too low. - (deSitter)
         Space is big. - (pwhysall) - (5)
             I believe the technical term for it is ... hyarge -NT - (drewk)
             Not so big - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 Question about that theory - (drewk) - (1)
                     The latter - (ben_tilly)
             I thought it was a long way to the chemists. But that's - (Meerkat)
         Don't know enough - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Re: Don't know enough - (deSitter)
         Might like some MMORPGs - (Meerkat) - (1)
             Your .sig is oddly appropriate. :) -NT - (inthane-chan)

I think that joke was old during the Spanish Inquisition.
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