Post #173,758
9/12/04 11:39:08 AM
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I just love conspiracy theories!
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Did the Republicans deliberately plant forgeries to take the attention away from Ben Barnes' statements? Where did the documents originate? That after all was the REALLY damning evidence.]
Oooh, conspiracy theories. Here are some of my favorites...
1. Karl Rove created the forgery to make a certain section of mainstream media look foolish.
2. VRWC bloggers created the forgery to make all of mainstream media look foolish.
3. Some CBS staffer created the forgery to get revenge on Dan Rather for this, that, and the other thing.
4. Terry McAuliffe created the forgery to hurt Bush. The reason it's so poorly done is, well, Terry McAuliffe's an idiot.
5. Kos created the forgery to hurt Bush. The reason it's so poorly done is, well, Kos is a fruitcake.
6. Al Qaeda created the forgery to hurt Bush. The reason it's so poorly done is, well, their knowledge of Western technology is a bit spotty. They know how to push the buttons, and how to pull the triggers, and that's all they care about.
C'mon everybody. What are your favorites?
Cui bono? (Sonny and Cher?) Remember, those who benefit aren't always those who were intended to benefit. Conspiracy and incompetence are by no means mutually exclusive.
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Post #174,138
9/14/04 8:43:09 AM
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You forget that Bush is Al Qaeda's choice.
Alex
"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer
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Post #174,146
9/14/04 9:21:04 AM
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chuckle, 4 out of 5 terrorists surveyed prefer Bush to Kerry
Shouldn't you?
(read in cheesy toothpaste/gum commercial voiceover tone)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #174,163
9/14/04 10:34:30 AM
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Israel's choice and alQ's choice both. What a coincedence.
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... a reference to Presidente Arbusto.
-- [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001417.html|Geoffrey K. Pullum]
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Post #174,286
9/14/04 5:36:13 PM
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Israel doesn't care who gets elected.
They've got both of them in their pocket.
Alex
"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer
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Post #174,346
9/14/04 10:06:11 PM
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yabbut shrub has the fundies, tourist revenue
These miserable swine, having nothing but illusions to live on, marshmallows for the soul in place of good meat, will now stoop to any disgusting level to prevent even those miserable morsels from vanishing into thin air. The country is being destroyed by these stupid, vicious right-wing fanatics, the spiritual brothers of the brownshirts and redstars, collectivists and authoritarians all, who would not know freedom if it bit them on the ass, who spend all their time trying to stamp, bludgeon, and eviscerate the very idea of the individual's right to his own private world. DRL
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Post #174,538
9/15/04 8:07:06 PM
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and that won't change.
Alex
"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer
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Post #174,151
9/14/04 9:34:34 AM
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Re: I just love conspiracy theories!
The interesting thing about conspiracy theories is that they seem to pop up in proportion to the distrust that people seem to have in the conspirators. Neither the CIA, FBI, or other spook shops engender a lot of trust, so anything involving them generates conspiracy theories.
This administration is highly secretive and brooks no oversight. There will be conspiracy theories if Bush orders Chinese takeout. That said, I was suspicious that the documents just turned up and suspected that it could be a trap. On the other paw, there is insufficient evidence to accuse anybody so I am prepared to let disinterested non-partisan authorities, if any exist, sort this mess out.
It really is a pity that there is nobody left that has any credibility.
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Post #174,152
9/14/04 9:36:27 AM
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The real truth
It really is a pity that there is nobody left that has any credibility. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #174,548
9/15/04 9:04:42 PM
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My favorite conspiracy theory about Rathergate
Here are the two key bits of information needed to solve this puzzle:
In August, 1974, President Nixon was forced to resign for campaign dirty tricks and the following coverup.
In Oct. 2002, Bob Torricelli, tainted by scandal and losing his bid for the New Jersey Senate, withdrew, and was replaced by Lautenburg at the last minute. Lautenburg went on to win the election, saving a crucial Democratic seat.
The light begins to dawn, doesn't it my friends.
Kerry is losing this election, and losing it badly, and the Dems know it. They needed a way to get him out of the race, to be replaced by a candidate with a better chance of winning. The problem is there's no way for him to drop out now. Not only would they have to concede that the Democrats are in big trouble, (not a possibility) but there would be major legal obstacles, including problems getting on all the ballots if they replace a candidate following the convention.
And so, a scheme was born. Clumsily forged documents would be released by the Kerry campaign to the media, creating a scandal designed to rebound on Kerry. Dan Rather, already planning his retirement, played the part of the sacrificial lamb in this scenario, giving up a short piece of his career for the good of the Democratic Party. Kerry, more than likely, is completely ignorant of this plan, not realizing that he's about to be replaced on the Democratic ticket. He'll deny any wrongdoing, but will be 'persueded' by party members to step down as candidate. Then, a replacement candidate will be put on the ballot
So, who's the mastermind behind this Machiavellian machination? Do you think it's a coincidence that Clinton staffers have begun to take over the Kerry campaign? Is it a coincidence that James Carville is now an official advisor to the campaign? How long has he been giving unofficial advice? It seems very clear that the only mind subtle enough to be behind this whole shebang is none other than Old Serpent Head himself. And if he's behind it all, can a Clinton be to far away?
Yes, folks, you heard it here first. This whole RatherGate scandal has been the first stage in Operation Hillary in 04. [link|http://shotsacrossthebow.com/archives/002084.html#002084|Link] John Kerry: The electability of Walter Mondale, without all that annoying integrity.
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Post #174,549
9/15/04 9:18:10 PM
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Starring: Karl Rove as the VastRightWingConspiracy. :-)
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Post #174,552
9/15/04 9:49:55 PM
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saw an in depth interview with the louisiana buzzsaw
and tim russert. He is semi official advising, no hillary in 04 as it is too soon. Crapaud he hinted was going to hit the fan shortly. An extremely entertaining gentleman who I disagree with in almost all policy issues but would be an interesting grog guest.
thanx.
bill
These miserable swine, having nothing but illusions to live on, marshmallows for the soul in place of good meat, will now stoop to any disgusting level to prevent even those miserable morsels from vanishing into thin air. The country is being destroyed by these stupid, vicious right-wing fanatics, the spiritual brothers of the brownshirts and redstars, collectivists and authoritarians all, who would not know freedom if it bit them on the ass, who spend all their time trying to stamp, bludgeon, and eviscerate the very idea of the individual's right to his own private world. DRL
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #174,736
9/16/04 10:30:22 PM
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I saw Bigfoot once
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